Closed FedeGueli closed 2 weeks ago
@ryhisner the 910A 911A 912A could be a TRS thing?
When I see a run of mutations in successive positions, I usually suspect a sequencing error, but maybe that's only because it makes tree-building more difficult. ?
When I see a run of mutations in successive positions, I usually suspect a sequencing error, but maybe that's only because it makes tree-building more difficult. ?
Yes my first thought too! but here it is always with C8668T so i think it is real this time!
These 6 sequences have the 910-12 substitutions, but don't have C8668T, and are currently placed with the other sequences in JN.1.4 but with reversions on 774 and 18453 (so they are not JN.1.4):
SouthAfrica/CERI-KRISP-K060866/2024|EPI_ISL_18931030|2024-02-05 SouthKorea/KDCA282622/2023|EPI_ISL_18823418|2023-12-30 Italy/PIE_IRCC_15897055/2023|EPI_ISL_18674017|2023-12-13 Canada/QC-L00680666001/2023|EPI_ISL_18654280|2023-11-24 USA/CA-CDPH-6000018682/2024|EPI_ISL_18940861|2024-01-16 USA/CA-GBW-H20-361-5118/2024|EPI_ISL_18945941|2024-02-16
Initially all of these sequences were placed on a JN.1 branch with a flip-flop on 1060 (before and after 910-912). When scanning around inJN.1 I saw that most of the sequences were really JN.1.4 but pulled in to the flip-flop branch by sharing 910-912 with those sequences. So I temporarily pruned the above 6 sequences and reoptimized so that the JN.1.4 sequences would be pulled into JN.1.4 by C774T and T18453C. But when the 6 sequences were added back (2024-03-06), they were now incorrectly pulled into JN.1.4 because 3 substitutions (910-912) beats 2 (774 and 18453).
Maybe it's cynicism, and it's certainly speculative, but I find it a lot easier to believe that 3 successive bases would have substitutions in different lineages (JN.1 and JN.1.4) due to sequencing errors than due to some real biological effect that would favor those 3 bases turning to 'A'. (But I know there are real exceptions like B.1.1's 28881-28883 (GGG > AAC), and @ryhisner made a plausible case for 21302,21304,21305 being real - though I still had to mask those in Delta and BA.2.86, and was tempted to mask them in prior Omicrons.)
106 now
163 still mostly Canada
slowed down closing it
Formerly known as Branch 20 of https://github.com/sars-cov-2-variants/lineage-proposals/issues/1097 defined by a triple nuc mutation around Orf1a:S216 resulting in Orf1a:S216N = NSP2_S36N
Defining JN.1.4 > T18453C > G910A, Orf1a:S216N (T911A, C912A), C8668T, S:T572I (C23277T),
Query: T18453C, C8668T,G910A,C23277T Samples:90 Countries: Canada (5 states) , Us (5 states), Chile (2 regions) Japan
IDs:
EPI_ISL_18654302, EPI_ISL_18654322, EPI_ISL_18654325, EPI_ISL_18654337-18654338, EPI_ISL_18729280, EPI_ISL_18732056, EPI_ISL_18756540, EPI_ISL_18768597, EPI_ISL_18769233, EPI_ISL_18769552, EPI_ISL_18772352, EPI_ISL_18772362, EPI_ISL_18779573, EPI_ISL_18780020, EPI_ISL_18787749, EPI_ISL_18803900, EPI_ISL_18810837, EPI_ISL_18826375, EPI_ISL_18826671, EPI_ISL_18839447, EPI_ISL_18839500, EPI_ISL_18839857, EPI_ISL_18856136, EPI_ISL_18863927, EPI_ISL_18868391, EPI_ISL_18874137, EPI_ISL_18882629, EPI_ISL_18892909, EPI_ISL_18897501, EPI_ISL_18897503, EPI_ISL_18908883, EPI_ISL_18913982, EPI_ISL_18914159, EPI_ISL_18914168, EPI_ISL_18914274-18914275, EPI_ISL_18917450, EPI_ISL_18920866, EPI_ISL_18927451, EPI_ISL_18927533, EPI_ISL_18928442, EPI_ISL_18928444, EPI_ISL_18928449, EPI_ISL_18928467, EPI_ISL_18928490-18928493, EPI_ISL_18933533, EPI_ISL_18933535, EPI_ISL_18933540, EPI_ISL_18933552, EPI_ISL_18933559-18933560, EPI_ISL_18933633, EPI_ISL_18933662, EPI_ISL_18935588, EPI_ISL_18937995, EPI_ISL_18938130, EPI_ISL_18945881, EPI_ISL_18945896-18945897, EPI_ISL_18946145, EPI_ISL_18946157, EPI_ISL_18946176-18946180, EPI_ISL_18946189, EPI_ISL_18946214, EPI_ISL_18946543, EPI_ISL_18946565, EPI_ISL_18950410, EPI_ISL_18950493, EPI_ISL_18950539, EPI_ISL_18950541, EPI_ISL_18950592, EPI_ISL_18956508, EPI_ISL_18956789, EPI_ISL_18959635, EPI_ISL_18959665, EPI_ISL_18959710, EPI_ISL_18959712, EPI_ISL_18959731-18959732, EPI_ISL_18959742-18959743, EPI_ISL_18959745Tree:
https://nextstrain.org/fetch/genome-test.gi.ucsc.edu/trash/ct/singleSubtreeAuspice_genome_test_49a81_9794d0.json?f_userOrOld=uploaded%20sample&label=id:node_6944557