Open Geoyi opened 4 years ago
Thanks @Geoyi for starting this issue and working on this key part of the problem of protecting our healthcare workers!
Adding some thoughts below that may help with considering what needs to be modeled to estimate PPE supply needs.
This is mainly coming from talking through the problem w/ a clinician friend who sees inpatients, teaches residents, and needs to make decisions about conserving PPEs and minimizing exposure risk to them with every patient encounter (suspected or confirmed COVID cases):
These are super helpful and thank you for talking through the problem with your clinician friend, @daveluo.
It's also worth at least keeping in mind for ourselves or modeling supply needs distinguishing between the various types of PPEs: N95 respirators, surgical/procedure masks, eye protection, gown and gloves
and how they correspond to the different usual levels of isolation precautions: Contact, Droplet, Airborne
N95 masks and face shields seem to be the most common and needed requirement now but we also see use of surgical/procedure masks, gloves & gowns during screening and triaging patients. Or procedure masks in lieu of N95 when there aren't any.
I am reading reports that many facilities are minimizing their usage to 1 PPE (mask) per day.
@andrewwgithub thanks for the input! To be more specific, do you mean facility-wide policy to be one mask (N95?) per provider per day?
Also adding to thread as a reference: JAMA: Conserving Supply of Personal Protective Equipment—A Call for Ideas
The editors of JAMA recognize the challenges, concerns, and frustration about the shortage of personal protective equipment (PPE) that is affecting the care of patients and safety of health care workers in the US and around the world. We seek creative immediate solutions for how to maximize the use of PPE, to conserve the supply of PPE, and to identify new sources of PPE. We are interested in suggestions, recommendations, and potential actions from individuals who have relevant experience, especially from physicians, other health care professionals, and administrators in hospitals and other clinical settings. JAMA is inviting immediate suggestions, which can be added as online comments to this article.
@andrewwgithub thanks for the input! To be more specific, do you mean facility-wide policy to be one mask (N95?) per provider per day?
Yes one per provider per day until the supply situation improves.
+data source:
https://gitter.im/covid19-healthsystemcapacity/community?at=5e77bc0e3a3acf64c1491943:
here's a continually updated #GetMePPEs spreadsheet for crowdsourced hospital facility needs and donation centers being set up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1txEanDkIrJ5GNfSk-zlXkTlB-bQPNRN_Y69qEwmdme8/htmlview?usp=sharing_eil&ts=5e77bb36&urp=gmail_link&sle=true
As a potential task after the 1st data release, someone could look at how we pull in this data automatically, join it to our facilities data, and visualize the crowdsourced needs and donation info per facility on our CCM map
What is the status of data sources for the project?
Thanks for your inputs @daveluo and @andrewwgithub.
I am planning to spend some time on the modeling this week and may need to reach out for guidance from you all. I have been talking to a few Andrew's colleagues at NM. The next key data points have all mentioned above are: PPE burn rates and usage as potential patients progress from testing to admission to discharge, a few admin and physitians from NM are willing to help to sort these key data points.
If you want to combine the those two papers to create an estimate of what's needed, I think one way to do that is:
These models are all based on percentages and I'm not sure how accurate they are, so there may be much better approaches to this problem. However the CareModel work might help serve as a starting point.
Let me know if you have any problems running the notebooks, using the data, or any workflow things. Ideally this repository makes getting running on an analytics challenge like the one you're tackling a bit easier to spin up on.
If you end up brining in data to use and make a PR, here's a quick rundown of how I've been approaching keeping track of everything:
processing/00_Download_Data.ipynb
notebook. Add it to the data/external
foldere.data/README.md
external/data.csv
, then you can get the full path (inside or outside docker) by:
from covidcaremap.data import external_data_path
the_path = external_data_path('data.csv')
- The `covidcaremap` package has some constant values and some geospatial methods that are meant to be reused between notebooks. If you want to create reusable python functionality feel free to add it to that module.
- Any data output by the notebook should go into the `data/processed` directory. You can get a path there by using the `processed_data_path` method similar to external_data_path. I've been committing the `processed_data` files even though they can be regenerated by notebooks; I think this allows people to run notebooks selectively and also puts up data that people may find useful (but should use at their own risk).
- If a notebook genert data, it uses the `published_data_path`. This is data we'd advocate for people to use.
- If you need to install any python libs, please put them in `notebooks/requirements.txt`. That way the `docker/build` script will install them into the container and other users won't have to think to hard about the install environment.
If there's any suggestions on how to improve this workflow please feel free to comment, chat, or make changes in a PR!
@williamratcliff
What is the status of data sources for the project?
I'm unsure what you are asking, can you clarify? Do you mean this project or the projects listed in the comments above yours? Thanks!
I need a few data layers today to put things together:
I'd love to get some guidance on:
Andrew W look me into a few discussions with NM and they produce an IDOH report.
@Geoyi Adding what I posted in slack here in case it's helpful for you or others.
From https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/ they have county level confirmed cases: https://static.usafacts.org/public/data/covid-19/covid_confirmed_usafacts.csv
Should we add a layer on counties' capacity (at least in terms of hospital beds) to handle the current and future estimated cases?
We will need to also merge in data on total population as the current layer is beds per 1000.
Looked over #68 - seems like a great start.
So if we take the county level confirmed cases mentioned above, could this be turned onto PPE estimates per county? That might be a first good step before the EPI model can project out caseload per county, if we get a model that can do that.
Where does the hospital/ICU capacity fit in? That could be supplied by the current dataset; updated ICU capacity numbers would be great but still looking for the best solution to collect that.
Thank you, @abarciauskas-bgse for sharing the data input.
Great points @lossyrob for using the confirmed cases at the county level to start. I talked to Jaline Gerardin at Northwestern U, she and her students have started EPI model for the Chicago area, and I think we may just wait a little to see what is coming out of it.
I'd say we wait until we have an updated and accurate hospital/ICU capacity, and make a plan from there. I am afraid everything is dynamically changing at the hospital side, for instance, they will make more beds/ICU beds if too many patients.
I am meeting with physicians again to debrief what data points we will need from them to track PPE needs at county level with the covid19 patient # changes.
Todo today : how can we estimate PPE needs when we have the confirmed cases at the county level
Qs to answer (☝️ look at the diagram):
what is the ratio between the healthcare provider and patient at community testing to ED Presentation per day? what are the ratios look alike at In-Patient Care and Critical Care?
what is the percentage of other non-covid19 patients who will need PPEs that can't be neglected, and what the PPE needs looks like? Are these needs can be estimated before convid19 hospitals' average ICU occupation?
If we are looking at hourly/daily county-level covid19 confirmed cases, how should we envision the PPE needs through the whole patient flow? In the confirmed cases, we are only looking at after Home Care ☝️, and what will be the best way to compute PPE needs through In Patient Care to Critical Care because a covid19 patient will stay for a week or more?
Last but not least, how do we define "PPE needs", large and well-funded hospitals have stocked up more PPEs but the physician in small hospitals are asked to reuse some of their PPE items?
I hope all the questions can be answered by physicians in the coming meeting.
Got some feedback from clinician friends that I've consolidated into a range for staffing ratios they're seeing:
Service | Staff | Staff:Patient ratio per shift |
---|---|---|
Emergency Dept | Physicians, Nurse Practitioners (NP), Physician Assistants (PA) | ? |
Nurses for general inpatient-level patients | 1:6-9 | |
Nurses for ICU-level patients | 1:4 | |
General Inpatient | Physicians, Nurse Practitioners (NP), Physician Assistants (PA) | 1:5-6 |
Nurses and Patient Care Associates (PCA) | 1:2-4 | |
ICU | Physicians, NPs | 1:3-4 |
Respiratory Therapists | 1:4-6 | |
Nurses and PCAs | 1:1-2 | |
Consultants | Specialist physicians like ID, pulmonary, nephrology | ? |
Other expert consultants like physical therapists, nutrition, chaplains, palliative care | ? |
Also consider there's redundancy in teaching institutions: every COVID patient has at least 2 doctors – a resident and an attending physician. Re: PPE, unclear if both are always going in every day but likely they are.
PPE needs estimation has been done and updated here (cc: @andrewwgithub)
Note: current PPE needs were estimated from confirmed covid19 cases (dataset from USAFacts) and follow the above diagram ☝️ which can be underestimated for a few aspects;
The estimation was updated until 25th, and most cases grew on 26th in the state, which was not captured yet but we will continue to work on improving;
We're working with physicians and current PPEs needs through the patient flow (diagram above) still underestimated the needs, we are working on improving this and will reflect the improvement through the current codebase.
Still waiting on confirmation from some ED colleagues, here are some data from a 2014 survey for patients per hour:
My ED colleagues have confirmed the patient per hour ratio looks good, some EDs have APPs practice independently, while at large academic centers, the APP must have an attending physician.
the online report for PPE need/demand is up here: https://rpubs.com/Geoyi/PPE_need_usa_convid19. The demand has been updated until April 3rd.
This is great thank you!
PPE shortage is coming with covid-19 patients' growth per hospital.
To answer the questions if we can model/simulate PPE (e.g. facial masks, surgical gloves, gowns, eye protections etc.) uses/shortages We need to think through:
Note: The above table cited from a peer-reviewed article: Personal protective equipment in an influenza pandemic: a UK simulation exercise (2007).
NYT article Governments and Companies Race to Make Masks Vital to Virus Fight