Crystal installer doesn't work for Fedora 41

[renich]

Hello,

With respect, the Fedora repos for crystal you, guys, host have always been unreliable. They're, usually, behind.

I would like to recommend to either enroll Zawertun to do the packaging or to just rely on his COPR repo:

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/zawertun/crystal/

I've been using that repo for years. He's very kind, responds quickly when I email him to ask for, say, support for LLVM 17 or stuff like this.

He's always out very early. Even before crystal announces the release (due to automation probably).

In any case, I think it's a good idea, at the very least, to list him as a community provider.

https://github.com/ZaWertun

[straight-shoota]

Thanks for the feedback. Could you be more specific what you mean with "unreliable" and "behind"?

Sure we can add this community repository to the installation page. Thanks for suggesting that 👍

However I did take a quick look at it and I noticed a couple of things that seem a bit off to me. Might be caused by my unfamiliarity with Fedora/COPR. For example, the packages list shows some names that I don't think are in any way related to Crystal. The source repository has a different version number than the last build, so it seems to be lagging behind?

Also I'm wondering is there a reason that thare is no package for Fedora Rawhide?

Please forgive me if any of these questions are trivial, I really don't know much about the Fedora ecosystem.

[renich]

Thanks for the feedback. Could you be more specific what you mean with "unreliable" and "behind"?

Basically, One cannot upgrade (to fedora 41) and trust the repos to be available on day one. This is "unreliable". I am sorry if the term isn't quite correct. English isn't my first language.

Sure we can add this community repository to the installation page. Thanks for suggesting that 👍

Sure thing.

However I did take a quick look at it and I noticed a couple of things that seem a bit off to me. Might be caused by my unfamiliarity with Fedora/COPR. For example, the packages list shows some names that I don't think are in any way related to Crystal. The source repository has a different version number than the last build, so it seems to be lagging behind?

The package list will show all the packages Zawertun is building for now (probably a mistake by the packager, eh? I'll report it). Yet, those pacakges aren't available in the zawertun repo.

The version on the reported source repo is, indeed, lagging behind. The repo where it was built from isn't.

Check the "Dist Git Repo" here: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/zawertun/crystal/package/crystal/

It will show you the actual repo utilized for building. The packager might've forgotten to update the repo's metadata.

I will report these two issues to him, though.

That said, the repo is very consistent: https://download.copr.fedorainfracloud.org/results/zawertun/crystal/fedora-41-x86_64/

Also I'm wondering is there a reason that thare is no package for Fedora Rawhide?

Please forgive me if any of these questions are trivial, I really don't know much about the Fedora ecosystem.

[renich]

Also I'm wondering is there a reason that thare is no package for Fedora Rawhide?

Well, it's just a matter of postulating the package, have it reviewed and maintained within the Fedora infrastructure. Anyone can apply to it: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/

Those are quite extensive because they cover all use cases. In general, once you're aquainted with those, it's not that hard to maintain packages. Rawhide is the "rolling release/development" repository. Scratch builds go there. Then, they get promoted to the production repos.

Please forgive me if any of these questions are trivial, I really don't know much about the Fedora ecosystem.

No worries. I am glad to answer as best as I can.

[renich]

https://copr-dist-git.fedorainfracloud.org/cgit/zawertun/crystal/crystal.git/commit/?h=f41&id=436fc57d36230689926bef2ae2f27cffe3d30239

This is the commit that generated the latest RPMs for Fedora 41. We have similar commits for Fedora 40, 39 and, also, CentOS Stream 9 and 8.

[straight-shoota]

Basically, One cannot upgrade (to fedora 41) and trust the repos to be available on day one. This is "unreliable".

Ok gotcha. Yeah this is indeed a nuisance. The build system we're currently using for our packages (OBS) requires manual interaction to enable a repository for a new distribution release. The lack of automation is why it lags behind 😞