Complex: mathematical functions should belong to Math instead of Complex itself

[makenowjust]

Currently we can calculate exp of Complex by its instance methods, and log of Complex too: like Complex.new(1, 2).exp and Complex.new(1, 2).log. But exp of Float64 or Float32, we need to use Math.exp. It means, this robs the ability to write a generic function for Complex and Float from us. I think

1. mathematical functions for Complex should belong to Math module instead Complex, or
2. should belong to Number as instance method instead of Math as module method,

in other words I want to organize the way to apply mathematical functions.

I don't prefer too many methods on a class, so I think the first idea is better than the second. How do you think?

(I have a patch to define trigonometric functions for Complex. I'll make pull request when this issue is solved.)

[bcardiff]

In 2 you meant Math.exp (class/module method) instead of Number#exp (instance method), right?

My preference is to stick as near as the usual math notation.

• I prefer c.exp(2) rather than Math.exp(c, 2) (as with binary operators)
• I prefer Math.sin(1) rather than 1.sin (as with other single args functions)
• I prefer Math.gcd(42, 17) rather than something else. (as with multiple args functions)

I find a bit problematic to keep factorial usual notation. I wouldn't like 5!, 5.!, 5.fact. I would go with Math.fact(5)

Having all in Math has the benefit of uniform between Numbers, Complex (and Quaternion (?) ). And the user could pick include Math and remove all the Math. from the source, so it will be more math like code.

In a code organization detail: I would define all those methods in by reopening Math module when you include Complex for example.

[makenowjust]

@bcardiff

In 2 you meant Math.exp (class/module method) instead of Number#exp (instance method), right?

Yes. (~I will edit my issue text.~ done.)

• I prefer c.exp(2) rather than Math.exp(c, 2) (as with binary operators)

I think so too with "as with binary operator", but Math.exp is not binary operator.

[makenowjust]

Memo:

• Math.log accepts two values (also it accepts a value), but I prefer Math.log(x, base) rather than x.log(base) because I think Math.log(x, base) is an extension of Math.log(x).
• Math.max and Math.min needs two values, but I prefer {x, y}.max and {x, y}.min rather than Math.max and Math.min because tuple form can accept variable-length arguments and Ruby has no max/min methods on Math. (Currently Math.min and Math.max cannot accept variable-length arguments. Why?).

[bcardiff]

I think so too with "as with binary operator", but Math.exp is not binary operator.

I mean to include binary operators in this syntax if they are not implement with infix operators like +,/,**.

Definitely exp it is not a binary operator, 5.exp(2) is 5 e ^ 2. Yet, I was so used to read `e^that I read it as a single thing. Maybeexp` could be present in both Math and Number.

[makenowjust]

For overloading Math.exp with Complex, the definition def exp(value) (without restriction version) disturbs it. We may need to redefine this with restriction as Number like def exp(value : Number). It is breaking change, but I think this effect is little.

[jhass]

Eliminating Math could be a fun experiment. For the factorial case I wouldn't mind x.fact or even x.factorial, for the trigonometric functions I actually wouldn't mind Number.sin(x) (with overloads for Complex instances there).

[ozra]

I would not like to see trigonometrics, etc. on Number -.

I prefer opening Math and use the methods "functionally", so agree strongly with @bcardiff here.

Agree with @MakeNowJust - Math.max/min should be variadic.

[RX14]

I think using Tuple#min and Tuple#max is better than Math.min/Math.max. I recall @asterite telling me to use the former in a PR review somewhere. If that's the case, why not just remove them on Math?

[ozra]

It it has to be one or the other, think definitely min, max is better off removed from Tuple in such a case. Tuples != number collections.

[Sija]

@ozra you don't only compare numbers either (see Comparable).

[ozra]

True, still I've never used min and max for anything but numbers. Of course that is kind of a limited study ;-)

[miketheman]

triage

This discussion started and stopped quite quickly. In the interest of driving it forward to some sort of consensus and conclusion, what could be the next steps here?

[HertzDevil]

Is this resolved by #9739?