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njr2128
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4 years ago "discussion" is sometimes capitalized, sometimes in parentheses- great inconsistency here - consistify as much as possible --> start parenthetical statement without a capital (even if a complete sentence) and end the the statement without a period (even if a complete sentence or even if it is finishing a SECOND sentence)
njr2128
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4 years ago @ps2270 - please advise: do you italicize foreign languages in the glossary? Including Latin? This is what we do for ed comments, but I'm not sure about glossary. See, e.g., Bol armeni
gallicized spelling of the Latin "bolus armeni" (armenian bole)
ps2270
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4 years ago No, let's not italicize.
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@ps2270 https://github.com/ps2270 - please advise: do you italicize foreign languages in the glossary? Including Latin? This is what we do for ed comments, but I'm not sure about glossary. See, e.g., Bol armeni
gallicized spelling of the Latin "bolus armeni" (armenian bole)
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njr2128
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4 years ago For tracking, I have made it through line 670 of DCE-glossary-table - will continue tomorrow.
njr2128
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4 years ago @ps2270 - the ending of this entry seems more like an ed comment than a glossary entry. I think we either need to remove the last sentence about Prevost or add more context: Inhonorificabilitidinitatudinibus
a literary word, essentially meaning "dishonourableness." Similar word "honorificabilitudinitatibus" used in Shakespeare’s Love's Labour's Lost (Act V, Scene I) and many other sources. Also found in dictionaries from the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. Although the trick also appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), he does not use this term.
The editorial comment in place only says this, so I actually think it would be a much better fit as an addition to this comment:
https://edition640.makingandknowing.org/#/folios/34v/f/34v/tl
my suggestion, if we want to keep Prevost:
... Also found in dictionaries from the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. On fol. 34v, it is used in a sleight of hand trick as "abracadabra," and although the trick also appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), he does not use this term.
ps2270
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4 years ago Good points. ed comm:
i.e., abracadabra. Also used in literature, essentially meaning "dishonourableness." Similar "honorificabilitudinitatibus," in Shakespeare, Love's Labour's Lost (Act V, Scene I) and other sources, including late fifteenth- and sixteenth-century dictionaries. This trick appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), but he does not use this term.
in the glossary, just include on fol. 34v, used in a sleight of hand trick as "abracadabra." Found in fifteenth- and sixteenth-century dictionaries meaning "dishonourableness."
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:07 AM Naomi Rosenkranz notifications@github.com wrote:
@ps2270 https://github.com/ps2270 - the ending of this entry seems more like an ed comment than a glossary entry. I think we either need to remove the last sentence about Prevost or add more context: Inhonorificabilitidinitatudinibus
a literary word, essentially meaning "dishonourableness." Similar word "honorificabilitudinitatibus" used in Shakespeare’s Love's Labour's Lost (Act V, Scene I) and many other sources. Also found in dictionaries from the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. Although the trick also appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), he does not use this term.
The editorial comment in place only says this, so I actually think it would be a much better fit as an addition to this comment: https://edition640.makingandknowing.org/#/folios/34v/f/34v/tl [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/14779727/91445514-356d5800-e844-11ea-9f0b-f8a17b19e218.png
my suggestion, if we want to keep Prevost:
... Also found in dictionaries from the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. On fol. 34v, it is used in a sleight of hand trick as "abracadabra," and although the trick also appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), he does not use this term.
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ps2270
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4 years ago I didn't format correctly, see glossary below. You know how to format ed comm (and glossary, so revise if I don't have it right)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:43 AM Pamela H. Smith ps2270@columbia.edu wrote:
Good points. ed comm:
i.e., abracadabra. Also used in literature, essentially meaning "dishonourableness." Similar "honorificabilitudinitatibus," in Shakespeare, Love's Labour's Lost (Act V, Scene I) and other sources, including late fifteenth- and sixteenth-century dictionaries. This trick appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), but he does not use this term.
in the glossary, just include on fol. 34v, used in a sleight of hand trick as "abracadabra" (also found in fifteenth- and sixteenth-century dictionaries meaning "dishonourableness")
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:07 AM Naomi Rosenkranz notifications@github.com wrote:
@ps2270 https://github.com/ps2270 - the ending of this entry seems more like an ed comment than a glossary entry. I think we either need to remove the last sentence about Prevost or add more context: Inhonorificabilitidinitatudinibus
a literary word, essentially meaning "dishonourableness." Similar word "honorificabilitudinitatibus" used in Shakespeare’s Love's Labour's Lost (Act V, Scene I) and many other sources. Also found in dictionaries from the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. Although the trick also appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), he does not use this term.
The editorial comment in place only says this, so I actually think it would be a much better fit as an addition to this comment: https://edition640.makingandknowing.org/#/folios/34v/f/34v/tl [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/14779727/91445514-356d5800-e844-11ea-9f0b-f8a17b19e218.png
my suggestion, if we want to keep Prevost:
... Also found in dictionaries from the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. On fol. 34v, it is used in a sleight of hand trick as "abracadabra," and although the trick also appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), he does not use this term.
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The Making and Knowing Project has just released Secrets of Craft and Nature in Renaissance France: A Digital Critical Edition and English Translation of BnF Ms. Fr. 640: https://edition640.makingandknowing.org
Entangled Itineraries: Materials, Practices, and Knowledges across Eurasia https://www.upress.pitt.edu/books/9780822965770/ is now available. The Body of the Artisan http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/B/bo3618964.html has been reissued in paperback and electronic editions. The Business of Alchemy https://press.princeton.edu/titles/10868.html is available in a new paperback.
-- Pamela H. Smith Seth Low Professor of History http://history.columbia.edu/faculty/smith-pamela-h/ The Making and Knowing Project
Director, Center for Science and Society http://scienceandsociety.columbia.edu/ Chair, Presidential Scholars in Society and Neuroscience https://presidentialscholars.columbia.edu/ Columbia University 605 Fayerweather Hall, MC 2516 1180 Amsterdam Avenue New York, N.Y. 10027 (212) 854-7662-Phone (212) 851-5963-Fax ps2270@columbia.edu
The Making and Knowing Project has just released Secrets of Craft and Nature in Renaissance France: A Digital Critical Edition and English Translation of BnF Ms. Fr. 640: https://edition640.makingandknowing.org
Entangled Itineraries: Materials, Practices, and Knowledges across Eurasia https://www.upress.pitt.edu/books/9780822965770/ is now available. The Body of the Artisan http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/B/bo3618964.html has been reissued in paperback and electronic editions. The Business of Alchemy https://press.princeton.edu/titles/10868.html is available in a new paperback.
njr2128
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4 years ago @ps2270 - the entry for "Refoulouer" (modern french: refouloir) simply says "rammer" (v) What does this mean? It is not a verb as found in the OED or common online dictionaries, and a quick google search does not help elucidate either. If I cannot figure this out from our own glossary, I feel we should provide a more complete or clear description
njr2128
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4 years ago I didn't format correctly, see glossary below. You know how to format ed comm (and glossary, so revise if I don't have it right) […]
Glossary has become: a literary word, essentially meaning "dishonourableness" (a similar word, "honorificabilitudinitatibus," is used in Shakespeare’s Love's Labour's Lost (Act V, Scene I) and many other sources, including dictionaries from the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. In Ms. Fr. 640, the term is used like "abracadabra" in a sleight of hand trick on fol. 34v)
Ed comment has become: i.e., abracadabra. While this trick appears in Jean Prevost (54v-56v), he does not use this word. The term is used in literature, essentially meaning "dishonourableness." A similar word, "honorificabilitudinitatibus," is used in Shakespeare's Love's Labour's Lost (Act V, Scene I) and other sources, including late 15th- and 16th-century dictionaries.
ps2270
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4 years ago has become: rammer (for packing gunpowder into the gun barrel when loading a gun)
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@ps2270 https://github.com/ps2270 - the entry for "Refoulouer" (modern french: refouloir) simply says "rammer" (v) What does this mean? It is not a verb as found in the OED or common online dictionaries, and a quick google search does not help elucidate either. If I cannot figure this out from our own glossary, I feel we should provide a more complete or clear description
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The Making and Knowing Project has just released Secrets of Craft and Nature in Renaissance France: A Digital Critical Edition and English Translation of BnF Ms. Fr. 640: https://edition640.makingandknowing.org
Entangled Itineraries: Materials, Practices, and Knowledges across Eurasia https://www.upress.pitt.edu/books/9780822965770/ is now available. The Body of the Artisan http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/B/bo3618964.html has been reissued in paperback and electronic editions. The Business of Alchemy https://press.princeton.edu/titles/10868.html is available in a new paperback.
njr2128
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4 years ago done. @njr2128 to add these stylistic decisions to #1741
njr2128
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4 years ago Changes also included:
I see that I have left inconsistencies in the Glossary that need to be changed:
Further corrections
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