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cujomalainey / ant-arduino

An implementation of a ANT driver for Arduino, Mbed and ESP-IDF
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NRF82532 / NRF52840 #56

Closed tcpipchip closed 2 years ago

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Hi I have here those models and ANT USB dongle to PC

Will work with them the communication ?

I mean nrf52832

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Hi,

Yep you can communicate over ANT to your PC, you just have to make sure the nRF devices are loaded with an ANT enabled soft device. https://www.thisisant.com keeps a compatibility list and you can download the new softdevices from there. Most ship with only BLE soft devices.

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Nice, I will test, make more blogs and promote you GitHub ANT :)

https://loja.smartcore.com.br/pagina/blog-faq-familia-nina-u-blox-wifi-ble.html

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Awesome :) let me know if you need any more info, @orrmany wrote an awesome guide on switching to the S340 on the adafruit feathers

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Please,send me the guide! And have you some simple example to send a sensor value to ANT ? I will use of antwire to capture that

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Here is the blog post https://blogarak.wordpress.com/2020/03/15/s340-softdevice-adafruit-nrf52840-express-feather/

For sending sensor values are you looking to use ANT+ or just raw data (if ANT+ see my antplus-arduino lib)

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

About the blog Why recompile bootloader if you can download the ant softdevice hex later ? The bootloader the user can use that in bootloader arduino folder (nrf52 arduino). Or that blogs wants to make a bootloader+softdevice in 1 hex file ? If yes, no need!

At moment, send raw data using ant+, or am i am confused about concept?

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

On adafruit boards the soft device and bootloader are part of the same region when updated so you have to do both at the same time. When you update the application the softdevice is not updated. Also the bootloader needs to be updated as it needs to power up the soft device initially so needs the new API calls if I recall correctly.

And ANT+ is merely a protocol for ANT, you in theory can define what ever byte pattern you want over the radio system

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Nice About network,when I ordered 4 years ago my usb dongle, must i have rights to network key ? If not, how can I get it ?

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

You can get the ANT+ network key from http://www.thisisant.com/developer/ant-plus/ant-plus-basics/network-keys/

You just have to agree to their "adopter terms" first. I recommend you take a quick read as that is why I do not have they key in any of my public repos.

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

hi wich is the difference between LICENCE_KEY and NETWORK KEY ?

On adopt, i got network key But, and what is license KEY ?

On Arduino examples, will i need both ?

I asked you because nordic example runs with network key 0,0,0, and licence key Demo (uncommented)

Thanks for all help!

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cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

The license key is used for the softdevice itself. The headers should include an evaluation license key that you can just uncomment. This simply allows you to use the code.

The network key is an 8 byte number that identifies a wireless network in ANT. The one provided at the link above has the keys for ANT+, ANT-FS and the public key.

You will need both, the license key to enable the software, and the network key to join the correct networks

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

In my case, using segger studio, and uncommented the ANT_LICENSE_KEY, i enter in a ANT network, where there is not ANT+ products running...right ? In theory, not for commercial use

To make commercial use (create a product), need to enter in the ANT+ network, right, using the Network Key ? Or enter in ANT+ network, created by end-devices, as Garmir GPS...right ?

You Arduino LIB uses ANT , not ANT+, right ?

For example, i followed the sequence of this NORDIC INSTRUCTIONS

https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.nordic.infocenter.sdk5.v15.3.0%2Fant_examples_broadcast.html&cp=5_1_4_0_3 Just uncomment that line...burn...and run, works

In you Arduino, i have to modify to the following

Channel type Master (0x10)
Network key Public
RF channel 66 (2466 MHz Device number 0x02
Device type 0x02
Transmission type 0x01 Channel period 8192 (4 Hz)

How can in set this on Arduino ?

Thank you about all answer, this will help all reading this DOC

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

If you are making a commercial product you need to acquire a non-evaluation license key from Dynastream. That being said, if you are in the arduino ecosystem, I don't think anything here is commercially viable/has any end user guarantee

There is whole process involving licensing, certification, and other stuff that you need to go through with Dynastream. Please see the disclosure at the bottom of my readme. I make zero promises about the commercial viability of my code.

You are still confusing ANT/ANT+. ANT+ is simply a layer on top of ANT. E.g. we all use wifi (ANT in this analogy), ANT+ would be TCP (a protocol over wifi). I have a second library antplus-arduino which implements some of the ANT+ protocols.

For implementing those calls, please see my examples.

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Hi, No commercial, just to show to u-blox readers that is possible to use ANT on NINA B112... https://nina-b3-openthread.blogspot.com/2022/03/u-blox-nina-b112-transmitindo-dados-via.html Next step is use your ANTPLUS-ARDUINO, but can i test it with ANTWare Dongle ?

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

If you mean can you mock a fake device with a USB dongle and Simulant+, the answer is yes. That is how I do most of my testing.

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

hi ant-plus project still compiling on VISUAL STUDIO CODE ? https://github.com/cujomalainey/antplus-arduino

I am using updated platformIO

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

yep, should compile in platformio or the arduino editor. I use the platformio CLI personally. Are you seeing issues?

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Yes, issues! Tested on 3 machines! Using platformio May I send you late ?

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Yes, issues! Tested on 3 machines! Using platformio May I send you late ?

I'm guessing you mean logs? And sure you can post them here or email them to me.

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

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tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

i had to modify to have some progress [env:nrf52_express] board = adafruit_feather_nrf52832 framework = arduino platform = nordicnrf52 platform_packages = framework-arduinoadafruitnrf52 lib_deps = https://github.com/cujomalainey/ant-arduino.git#develop

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tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

back to 832 and remove all examples, except one! image

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

weird problem image

undefined reference to arduino loop many times ?

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

so your first screenshot is capturing a bug in platformio itself, you need to search the forums for that.

Your following screenshots are because you are using platformio and vscode like the arduino editor. The arduino editor is a very limited tool and it only compiles what you see. Almost every other editor in the world does not do this.

Two things you need to do to solve your problem.

  1. make a new project. I can see you currently have my repository open. Unless you plan to contribute back to my project this is not what you want to do.
  2. add antplus arduino as a dependency via lib_deps = ANT+ you don't need to worry about ant-arduino as it is a dependency for the antplus package.
  3. copy an example you wish to run into your src folder. Platformio under normal build conditions will only build what is in src/ and lib/
tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Hi On NRF52840, i had to include

include "Adafruit_TinyUSB.h", otherwise a lot of compile errors are showed...

Getting progress! image

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Interesting, also you need to use the arduinonativeantwithcallbacks if you are using the in device radio

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

changingto to this ? ArduinoNativeAntWithCallbacks ant; image

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Yes, see the native ant example in ant Arduino to see how to set it up

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

well, that example still didnt help me!

Still tryng to understand to make the blog

looks that ArduinoNativeAntWithCallbacks Class not exist

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

same problem on Arduino (IDE)

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

That means then that your library is not building with the -DS340 flag (assuming you used the S340 softdevice). You need to add that so you have access to the direct soft device APIs. They are behind a build flag otherwise the system would never compile for remote targets using the serial driver.

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

then the ArduinoNativeAnt Class is part of SoftDevice 340 ?

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Not quite, its a wrapper for the S340 API. The Serial driver is designed for the network processor where the nRF52 is external chip to the one you are programming. ant-arduino is meant to provide a uniform interface regardless how you interface with the radio.

orrmany commented 2 years ago

Sorry guys, I've been off from embedded programming for more than a year now. I will try to catch-up eventually. What I'm aware is that there was a major, backward-incompatible version change to nRF52 SDK, so I am pretty sure that my old blog entry about ANT+ support for the Adafruit nRF52840 board is outdated, most likely

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

@cujomalainey

Can you zip us a ant+ platformio project ready to download ?

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

@orrmany thanks for the headsup, I will try and rebase my fork and see I can get it working with the latest BSP. Bootloader should be compatible regardless of version.

@tcpipchip I cannot, distributing the license key and the ANT headers is against the agreement. We can setup the project but you have to add the files from dynastream.

tcpipchip commented 2 years ago

Thank you

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

I fixed up the framework, https://github.com/cujomalainey/Adafruit_nRF52_Arduino now its based off the latest upstream tag

I just have to push a platform package as well with the board definitions

I am also going to going to generate a ant-arduino reference in platformio as you are not the first person this week confused by this convoluted workflow :)

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Got a bit further, set up the base platform with a feather board reference. Although I have hit some problems with the adafruit nrf crypto library and how to properly include it, not sure why its breaking. I am going offline for the weekend, will pick up next week.

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Sorry for the radio silence, still working on the crypto library bug.

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Here is a buildable config for platformio.

platform = https://github.com/cujomalainey/platform-nordicnrf52#develop
board = adafruit_feather_nrf52840_s340
framework = arduino
lib_deps = ANT
build_flags = -DS340

Still need to verify against my board.

The build_flags is temporary till https://github.com/platformio/platform-nordicnrf52/issues/147 is resolved

cujomalainey commented 2 years ago

Please reopen if you have anymore questions or comments

orrmany commented 1 year ago

I think tiny-usb is also changed a lot and that is very relevant to the Adafruit bootloader. I plan to restart my work on my ANT+ project, too, so I will make an attempt of catching up my fork with upstream, too. I had to change computer meanwhile, so currently my PlatformIO instance is broken, too, i.e.: don't expect overnight update from me :P

Curtis Malainey @.***> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. ápr. 5., K, 18:58):

@orrmany https://github.com/orrmany thanks for the headsup, I will try and rebase my fork and see I can get it working with the latest BSP. Bootloader should be compatible regardless version.

@tcpipchip https://github.com/tcpipchip I cannot, distributing the license key and the ANT headers is against the agreement. We can setup the project but you have to add the files from dynastream.

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orrmany commented 1 year ago

I started to work on uplifting my code to the latest revision (v.9.3.0) of the Adafruit nordicnrf52 platform. I hope I can come back in couple of days with a success story, fingers crossed.

Curtis Malainey @.***> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. ápr. 8., P, 6:02):

Got a bit further, set up the base platform https://github.com/cujomalainey/platform-nordicnrf52 with a feather board reference. Although I have hit some problems with the adafruit nrf crypto library and how to properly include it, not sure why its breaking. I am going offline for the weekend, will pick up next week.

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tcpipchip commented 1 year ago

this is very very cool news

cujomalainey commented 1 year ago

Jeez we are at 9.3 already? Thanks @orrmany for taking the lead. My focus has been on my ANT rust crate, hoping to publish by EOY. Let me know when you have it working and I can make sure my stuff still works.

cujomalainey commented 1 year ago

FYI i rebased my branches, but I haven't be able to test as my board refuses to be programmed (might have to find my jlink).

tcpipchip commented 1 year ago

Nice, then i can update my blog https://nina-b3-openthread.blogspot.com/2022/03/u-blox-nina-b112-transmitindo-dados-via.html

orrmany commented 1 year ago

Got to a state, where I became able to rebuild the current stock master version of the Adafruit Bootloader in PlatformIO, that is, I've completed Step #1 of 9 steps of https://blogarak.wordpress.com/2020/03/29/platformio-ide-integration-for-the-nrf52840-feather-express-with-s340/#adding_s340_support_to_plaform_io Then I started to "port" my ANT softdevice changes to the new version. Currently I am stuck at step 6 of my historic blogpost: i.e., modifying the linker. --- Here I had to realize that the 0.4.0 release version of the bootloader had made major change: Ha Tach has removed the softdevice dependency from the bootloader, see https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_nRF52_Bootloader/blob/master/changelog.md#040---20210119. This means that my old tutorial, which is just a recap of what @rtgree01 has done, became invalid.

Now I am way out of my competence with this bootloader stuff right now, so it will take more time than I anticipated. :(

cujomalainey commented 1 year ago

Ah i spent my time fighting with the bsp, I didn't even attempt the bootloader. Indeed this changes a lot.

Thankfully it reduces risks of mistakes as we can just say "update with a prebuilt" (assuming the bootloader doesn't need an alternative linker script). But it indeed throws out almost our work for loading the softdevice.