Closed cunnie closed 2 years ago
If the only problematic part is raiffeisen
, then remove that feature?
I doubt they can claim any trademark in the sslip.io
domain itself.
Phising and such is of course still possible with other subdomains of sslip.io
and similar DNS services, just without a reassuring freetext domain label to fool users.
In any case I find it curious that they are contacting your hosting provider to take down a domain instead of the domain registrar. You could switch to someone that .. cares less about those abuse notifications.
The safest way to prevent phising is to only respond with internal IPs, but this is rightfully blocked by some DNS resolvers to prevent rebinding attacks and would make your service much less useful overall.
I doubt that a simple denylist such as the european trademark list will solve this problem. There's enough variations to bypass such a filter yet still fool users, e.g. a simple xn--aiffeisen-kge.94.228.116.140.sslip.io
might be enough.
Have you tried contacting other "Related Services" that you mention on your own site to collaborate on fighting abuse of such a DNS service?
Hi @robo9k , you've managed to cut to the heart of many of the issues with this problem.
In any case I find it curious that they are contacting your hosting provider to take down a domain instead of the domain registrar. You could switch to someone that .. cares less about those abuse notifications.
Hetzner is only that—the hosting provider for the website, which isn't terribly important. The important parts are the 3 DNS servers, which are hosted on AWS, Azure, and GCP.
The safest way to prevent phising is to only respond with internal IPs, but this is rightfully blocked by some DNS resolvers to prevent rebinding attacks and would make your service much less useful overall.
I spoke with the author of nip.io about this very topic. His approach was to whitelist the internal IPs, but then do a form of IP-blacklisting (not name blacklisting). I think I'll do something similar—whitelist internal IPs, and blacklist certain domain names (e.g. goldman-sachs....sslip.io)
e.g. a simple xn--aiffeisen-kge.94.228.116.140.sslip.io might be enough.
Exactly! A simple lookup table of bank names will be easily outwitted by the technique you describe, so a blacklist of domain names won't be as helpful as I'd hoped.
Have you tried contacting other "Related Services" that you mention on your own site to collaborate on fighting abuse of such a DNS service?
Let's Encrypt said they don't publish their list of "forbidden" certificates, but nip.io said they'd be willing to share their list of blacklisted IPs as long as I keep it private.
Another abuse email:
Hello Brian,
We are contacting you from the Namecheap Legal and Abuse Team regarding your “cunnie” Namecheap account.
It has come to our attention that phishing content is displayed on your website at the link:
hxxps:// nf-43-134-66-67 [.] sslip [.] io/sg
As a reminder, phishing is expressly prohibited by our Universal Terms of Service Agreement, paragraph 7. "Acceptable Use Policy (AUP)" at https://www.namecheap.com/legal/universal/universal-tos.aspx
We need you to act promptly in removing the reported content within the next 48 hours. While we always try to avoid having to interrupt our customers' services, if we receive no response from you or no action is taken within the mentioned time frame, unfortunately, we will be forced to suspend the domain until the matter is resolved.
Thank you, and we are looking forward to your reply.
================[ Please find the additional information below / attached. ]================
Regards, Daniil Z. Legal & Abuse Department Namecheap, Inc.
Ticket Details Ticket ID: LMZ-252-54783 Department: Abuse Cases Type: Domains L&A Status: In progress Priority: High
Helpdesk: https://support.namecheap.com/index.php?
Closing. We now maintain a blocklist of strings & CIDRs.
To help unexpirienced users to understand that the link is fraud then an additional subdomain 'fake' may be required e.g.
fake.bank.1.1.1.1.sslip.com
Or the sslip.com renamed to badsite.com. Not sure how efficient this counter measure will be if anyway most people will ignore it.
But this is just very simple and unsofisticated phishing so not that many of it and just bloclist should be enough
Hello, I am in Iran and I wanted to buy Intex inflatable products. A store called Intex Iran operates in this country with the domain www.intexiran.com.
Do you confirm that he is your representative in this country?
In addition, this company has been officially registered in Iran, do you think it is valid?
From the Hetzner complaint:
They later suggested a list of European Trademarks: https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#advanced/trademarks/1/100/n1=MarkFeature&v1=Word&o1=AND&sf=ApplicationNumber&so=asc