Open ChristianIngwersen opened 2 months ago
Hi, could you describe your use case better? We'd like to know why this specific state (acceptance, completed) is important for your annotation pipeline, and why the updated version is worse.
Hi @zhiltsov-max ,
Thanks for taking the time! Our current workflow is the following:
So the idea is to make it easier for the supervisor to change it to acceptance. The argument for this would be that our supervisor generally spends less time per job and thus it would be nice to minimize the clicks needed to change the stage.
However, I see that it makes sense that once someone presses finish is moves the state to completed within a given stage. So maybe a better solution would be a dropdown within the job to change the stage of the job and not only the state?
Again thanks for the great work!
Ok, so if I understand correctly, the problem is that if the supervisor / reviewer opens a job, they can't advance the job from the review stage to the acceptance directly, and instead they need to move back to the tasks page and do it there? In this case, I think, a temporary solution for you could be that the reviewer opens the job for review in a new tab, reviews the job, and then closes the opened tab and switches the stage on the task page. But it's an interesting use case, which we need to think about it. Thank you for sharing this information with us.
@bsekachev
Exactly!
And yes that has also been the new hopefully temporary solution :-)
+1 for this; we use job stage + state to know when to pull labels
in our previous use case, when using the "Finish the Job" function, it would set the stage to "acceptance" and the state to "completed"; now, it maintains the same stage (usually "validation"), and only updates the state--when (I manually switch the stage, it resets the state
for my use case, we run the CVAT server on a GCP VM with a Google CloudSQL postgres instance; I use bigquery to scan for new jobs nightly that have a correct "assigned to" status, an accepted stage, and a completed state; if all 3 are met, it then adds them into our data lake
"assigned to" status, an accepted stage, and a completed state
why not modify condition on your side? I do not see in your pipeline why stage is important at all.
I manually switch the stage, it resets the state
This is expected. When stage changed, state is reset, e.g. when job goes from annotation to validation, another person (responsible for validation process, usually task owner or assignee) has to see that he has a new job to review. "validation", "new" are indicators for that.
thanks for the prompt reply:
why not modify condition on your side? I do not see in your pipeline why stage is important at all.
we use the various stages for internal tracking of where things are; a few examples of common combinations we use:
the usage of the various conditions on my end are fail safes; it is better to not have labels enter our lake because a member of the labeling team (or I) accidentally set it to accepted. the accepted/completed combination + assigned to field ensures with no uncertainty that the frames are fully reviewed. as I'm sure you can imagine it becomes a bigger headache to back track and delete the frames in the event that they are submitted as complete before being fully complete
This is expected. When stage changed, state is reset, e.g. when job goes from annotation to validation, another person (responsible for validation process, usually task owner or assignee) has to see that he has a new job to review. "validation", "new" are indicators for that
definitely, this makes total sense--my issue is more that previously I was able to click 1 button and have it automatically set the correct stage and state whereas now, when I fix the stage, the state resets. I understand why the state resets, but my issue is now I have to manually change it. this is a minor inconvenience, but when it used to just be a single button click, it's a bit of a pain to have to do manually
our process is centered around reducing pain points surrounding data labeling/QA/loading. we use voxel fiftyone for instance to send jobs automatically on a weekly basis and properly set up the job stage/state; in this case, we use the various values for state/stage/assigned to as layers of checks to make sure that everything is in order before uploading
if I am missing something/if there is a better way to do this, please let me know. ideally, if I could just create macros to create the job state, that would be optimal
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Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
When finishing a job it would previously change the job stage to acceptance instead of annotation. Today when you press "Finish the job" it will change the state to completed instead.
There is however still a dropdown where you can change the job state to e.g. completed, but now you will need a lot of clicks to change the stage of a video.
Describe the solution you'd like
|t would be nice to either revert how this behaves or to add a drop-down menu that allows you to easily change the stage of a job.
Describe alternatives you've considered
Drop-down menu to easily change the job stage
Additional context
I'm using the web interface app.cvat.com