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format-oriented tagging for the names of non-print works #85

Open ghost opened 10 years ago

ghost commented 10 years ago

Coming out of the playwrights project:

We need to figure out a better way of tagging non-print works of art, such as tv shows, movies, shorts, paintings, etc. Could we do something building on our genre/format choices (many of which I think derive from MODS)? (Also about to open up the discussion of genre again with NINES, which may affect things.)

terms they need: television series television episode film short film feature

also there are things like art exhibits, colloquia, conferences. In orlando we didn't name such things but it's likely to arise as a common question and these are all named entities (as well as often being events)

brundin commented 10 years ago

Sure, we can add it to one of our term lists, i.e.,

SusanBrown commented 10 years ago

I seem to recall that ARC/NINES had some of this better than we did. We're about to (re)open up conversations with them about genre terms later this month.

On 2014-10-06 11:07 PM, brundin wrote:

Sure, we can add it to one of our term lists, i.e.,

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brundin commented 10 years ago

Sounds good.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:37 PM, SusanBrown notifications@github.com wrote:

I seem to recall that ARC/NINES had some of this better than we did. We're about to (re)open up conversations with them about genre terms later this month.

On 2014-10-06 11:07 PM, brundin wrote:

Sure, we can add it to one of our term lists, i.e.,

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/cwrc/CWRC-Schema/issues/85#issuecomment-58130642.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/cwrc/CWRC-Schema/issues/85#issuecomment-58135285.

ghost commented 10 years ago

I wonder what tag would be best. Maybe keep title for text-type things, and have something like WORK for paintings, etc? Or do you think it best to stick to TITLE and just add different attributes for different types of works so they can be formatted appropriately? Might be more consistent with MODS practices?

On Oct 6, 2014, at 11:07 PM, brundin notifications@github.com wrote:

Sure, we can add it to one of our term lists, i.e.,

format: http://cwrc.ca/terms/format.pdf primary genre: http://cwrc.ca/terms/primary_genre.pdf subgenre: http://cwrc.ca/terms/subgenre.pdf Yes, some of the terms came from the MARC Genre Term List (http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/marcgt.html), which is referenced in the LC guidelines for the MODS top-level genre element. Or maybe we should develop another type of genre/format list? — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

brundin commented 10 years ago

Good question, Susan.

In TEI, the title element has the level attribute, which qualifies the title into what could be thought of as format-like categories, i.e., analytic, monographic, journal, series, and unpublished. The title element also has a type attribute, which relates more specifically to aspects associated with the title, such as main, subordinate, alternate, short, and descriptive. See http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-title.html

In MODS, however, the top-level titleInfo element is reserved solely for characteristics associated with the title, such as whether it is the title proper, subtitle, part of a title, or initial article. See http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/userguide/titleinfo.html

The general type of content of the resource is recorded in the typeOfResource element; see http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/userguide/typeofresource.html And more specific information regarding the style or form of the resource is recorded in the genre element. See http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/userguide/genre.html

So, following MODS practices, we can either extend one of our term lists referenced earlier in this thread, or we can develop a new list. In addition, that is a good idea you had that we review how NINES has captured genre-type information.

Michael

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Susan Brown notifications@github.com wrote:

I wonder what tag would be best. Maybe keep title for text-type things, and have something like WORK for paintings, etc? Or do you think it best to stick to TITLE and just add different attributes for different types of works so they can be formatted appropriately? Might be more consistent with MODS practices?

On Oct 6, 2014, at 11:07 PM, brundin notifications@github.com wrote:

Sure, we can add it to one of our term lists, i.e.,

format: http://cwrc.ca/terms/format.pdf primary genre: http://cwrc.ca/terms/primary_genre.pdf subgenre: http://cwrc.ca/terms/subgenre.pdf Yes, some of the terms came from the MARC Genre Term List ( http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/marcgt.html), which is referenced in the LC guidelines for the MODS top-level genre element. Or maybe we should develop another type of genre/format list? — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

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