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phrasing about SD and ABM #102

Closed katyhuff closed 9 years ago

katyhuff commented 9 years ago

Hi @gidden - I was going through some suggestions made by Erich for the Fundamentals paper and I ran accross one that I didn't feel like I could handle on my own. The paragraph in question is in the impl.tex file:

Furthermore, the \gls{ABM} paradigm is superior to the system dynamic approach used in
current simulators.
System dynamics is a popular approach for modeling nuclear fuel cycles
\cite{jacobson_vision_2009,van_den_durpel_daness_2009,guerin_impact_2009,guerin_benchmark_2009}.
Formally however, system dynamics models are simply a strict subset of agent-based models
\cite{macal_agent-based_2010}.
That is, any system dynamics model can be translated
into an agent-based model. Furthermore, because agent-based
techniques can provide a richer model than can system dynamics, they enable the
broadest range of simulations in a generic fashion.

The comment from Erich is:

I think this paragraph requires substantiation... the claim was made that ABM is superior to SD, 
but not (to my mind) proved.  ABM encompasses SD but that doesn't make it better.  To 
substantiate this and the 'richer model' claim, suggest developing specific examples of things 
ABM can do that SD can't

I would suggest this simple change:

The final sentence of the paragraph:

Furthermore, because agent-based
techniques can provide a richer model than can system dynamics, they enable the
broadest range of simulations in a generic fashion.

could become:

Therefore, they enable a broader range of simulations in a more generic fashion.

What do you think?

gidden commented 9 years ago

This portion was written originally by @scopatz, is memory serves. I agree that it is a strong claim; however, the claim is derived from the cited paper (Macal, et. al.). A semi-formal proof exists in the paper. I think you're proposed fix is fine. Would you like me to make the commit and PR it?

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katyhuff commented 9 years ago

Oh, sorry, thought it was you. I'm happy to make the change. Thanks for the speedy feedback!

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This portion was written originally by @scopatz, is memory serves. I agree that it is a strong claim; however, the claim is derived from the cited paper (Macal, et. al.). A semi-formal proof exists in the paper. I think you're proposed fix is fine. Would you like me to make the commit and PR it?

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scopatz commented 9 years ago

From checking the history, I did not write this originally. My edits to this file have relatively minor. Though I do agree that the wording is too strong.

katyhuff commented 9 years ago

cool! Fixed now. Thanks both!

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From checking the history, I did not write this originally. My edits to this file have relatively minor. Though I do agree that the wording is too strong.

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