Start with Issues as some sort of "forum".

[jdjakub]

We need to be able to discuss things in an easily accessible, public form. Hopefully one that will show up in search results for the topics we're discussing.

Since a central theme of this work is bootstrapping, it might be funny to apply the same idea here. Right now, we can use GitHub Issues as a "forum". We can have conversations and everything is public.

We can use Issues to talk about whatever we want. But in parallel with all of that, we should also be looking at potentially better or more appropriate "forums" for public conversation and documentation. Once we decide on one, we can migrate these discussions elsewhere, and post an Issue to notify everyone.

So in this Issue, let's talk about alternatives to GitHub Issues :)

[jdjakub]

In a recent Skype conversation, some suggestions came up:

• Wiki format
• Hybrid wiki / discussion model as seen on the c2 wiki
• An actual forum

I would add the Cemetech forum that Dan's a member of, however I don't know much about it.

Of course, given our mission, hopefully one day all of these will be unnecessary :) but for now, we'll have to pick an existing system on the HTML-ified Web.

I personally cannot immediately call to mind serious problems with using Issues as a forum. But if they exist, I'm sure they'll reveal themselves with practice.

(ah, there's one. I nearly clicked the "Close and comment" button by mistake. Be careful not to click that. Although I think they can be re-opened.)

[coderextreme]

The problem with a forum is that it has to be regularly trafficked. Yet another site. With email, you can do your own filtering etc.

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In a recent Skype conversation, some suggestions came up:

• Wiki format
• Hybrid wiki / discussion model as seen on the c2 http://wiki.c2.com/ wiki
• An actual forum

I would add the Cemetech forum that Dan's a member of, however I don't know much about it.

Of course, given our mission, hopefully one day all of these will be unnecessary :) but for now, we'll have to pick an existing system on the HTML-ified Web.

I personally cannot immediately call to mind serious problems with using Issues as a forum. But if they exist, I'm sure they'll reveal themselves with practice.

(ah, there's one. I nearly clicked the "Close and comment" button by mistake. Be careful not to click that. Although I think they can be re-opened.)

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[coderextreme]

I think I did not consider your subject in my reply. I think issues as a forum is a fine idea. I thought that was github's default.

On Nov 5, 2017 5:53 AM, "John Carlson" yottzumm@gmail.com wrote:

The problem with a forum is that it has to be regularly trafficked. Yet another site. With email, you can do your own filtering etc.

On Nov 5, 2017 5:00 AM, "Joel Jakubovic" notifications@github.com wrote:

In a recent Skype conversation, some suggestions came up:

• Wiki format
• Hybrid wiki / discussion model as seen on the c2 http://wiki.c2.com/ wiki
• An actual forum

I would add the Cemetech forum that Dan's a member of, however I don't know much about it.

Of course, given our mission, hopefully one day all of these will be unnecessary :) but for now, we'll have to pick an existing system on the HTML-ified Web.

I personally cannot immediately call to mind serious problems with using Issues as a forum. But if they exist, I'm sure they'll reveal themselves with practice.

(ah, there's one. I nearly clicked the "Close and comment" button by mistake. Be careful not to click that. Although I think they can be re-opened.)

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[jdjakub]

Ok.

Yet another site.

Good point. That's one huge advantage of keeping it here.

With email, you can do your own filtering etc.

True, but the emphasis here is that it is on the public internet. To see what's going on here, and the ideas being exchanged, you don't need to sign up to a mailing list.

Yeah I agree with staying here for now.

[cr88192]

it is worth noting as well that GitHub has a wiki feature. not as good as MediaWiki, but it basically sorta works.

as well, it is possible (though I forget the exact process off-hand) to set up a Github project to work as a webpage.

though, for general discussion, I mostly prefer mailing lists or similar.

[d-cook]

I'm sorry I didn't look at this sooner, because I think the layout, it being on the same website/location, and the fact that it's publically visible, all make it a pretty great format.

I suppose the only down-side is the lack of email notification, as BGB says. Though I suppose that anyone who is sufficiently interested & invested can come check on updates.

On a side note, I have added some more email conversations to the Discussion section, but going forward I'll try to use this (except in certain circumstances when email is more appropriate)

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I'm sorry I didn't look at this sooner, because I think the layout, it being on the same website/location, and the fact that it's publically visible, all make it a pretty great format.

I suppose the only down-side is the lack of email notification, as BGB says. Though I suppose that anyone who is sufficiently interested & invested can come check on updates

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