write a better screen/tmux

[dankamongmen]

Anything involving screen, tmux or even mosh has been unpleasant and underwhelming. It is becoming obvious that, just like Curses, these are products of old thinking, and outdated modalities. We've got just about everything necessary to write One Screen Manager/Multiplexor to Rule Them All with very little additional code.

I think we ought marinate on a badass name, and move forward once inspiration strikes on that front.

This of course has ramifications on #381 and possibly others.

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/143473/107105251-4e1a6a80-67f3-11eb-872d-df54a42dc53f.mp4

[WSLUser]

So ignoring the session stuff, an actual pane is actually pretty decent with Windows Terminal and is based on WinUI (Mono could be used for Linux if considering the UI part only) . This may make no difference to this issue but figured a good example for the panes at least should be mentioned. Also there is an enhancement project to make screen look better, byobu: https://www.byobu.org/ and might provide a source of inspiration as well.

[dankamongmen]

So ignoring the session stuff, an actual pane is actually pretty decent with Windows Terminal and is based on WinUI (Mono could be used for Linux if considering the UI part only) . This may make no difference to this issue but figured a good example for the panes at least should be mentioned. Also there is an enhancement project to make screen look better, byobu: https://www.byobu.org/ and might provide a source of inspiration as well.

for some reason i've spent over a decade thinking byobu to be a disk space analyzer

[WSLUser]

I've personally never used it but I have heard some good things about it. I'm used to running plain old screen if I need to keep a session running for a long running script.

[dankamongmen]

I've personally never used it but I have heard some good things about it. I'm used to running plain old screen if I need to keep a session running for a long running script.

from what i've seen, screen doesn't support TrueColor aside from in specially-compiled variants of screen5. given that alacritty doesn't support scrollback natively, and encourages tmux etc to effect this, i'm suddenly more interested in quality multiplexor support.

what's the common term for these tools (screen, tmux, etc)? multiplexors? screen managers?

[WSLUser]

They're referred to as multiplexers typically. There's some color support but that's likely being provided by the terminal. In Windows Terminal, I ssh to a Linux server then enter screen. If you do echo $TERM it comes back as screen.xterm-256color. Interestingly running screen on ITerm2 provides a $TERM of screen. So Mac is a bit different.

[dankamongmen]

I think I'm coming into agreement with @kovidgoyal that this kind of thing belongs in the terminal emulator itself, if anywhere. closing this up as a NONFIX.

[kovidgoyal]

Hurray a convert :)