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Dao Programming Language
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daovm.net doesn't work #517

Open dumblob opened 8 years ago

dumblob commented 8 years ago

Almost two weeks ago I noticed, that http://daovm.net is not reachable and it still isn't currently. Are there any technical issues? If there are any other issues (e.g. financing), please name them here and we can come up with some solution.

dumblob commented 8 years ago

Any news? I'm continuously looking for investors and commercial subjects which might be interested in Dao as in my eyes the development significantly suffers from not being backed up by a strong (non-)material supporter.

zauberparacelsus commented 8 years ago

It looks like http://daovm.net is now being controlled by a cyber-squatter

dumblob commented 8 years ago

@zauberparacelsus unfortunately yes :( @daokoder what about dao-lang.net or similar?

Regarding the material backup of the main Dao developer @daokoder (and possibly others), I was thinking about the quickly growing platform Bountysource. I would rather see Dao at the place of the D language in the list of languages.

I would definitely send some money every month, because I love Dao - it really became the language of my choice.

zauberparacelsus commented 8 years ago

I think a bigger problem is that, AFAIK, http://daovm.net is where all of Dao's documentation was hosted at. So, unless there's an alternate/backup documentation source, Dao has no docs.

dumblob commented 8 years ago

@zauberparacelsus the Dao documentation is generated by the build system - see e.g. documentation handling in the Arch Linux package: https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=dao-git#n367 .

On the other hand, on daovm.net there were other assets - e.g. quite a few repositories which are not anymore available anywhere. Only @daokoder can tell what exactly is gone.

zauberparacelsus commented 8 years ago

I was chatting with another coder, who pointed me to this website, which appears to have a copy of the Dao documentation as well: http://www.jaedyn.co/dao-doc/

EDIT: Seems to be incomplete

zauberparacelsus commented 8 years ago

@dumblob I just now noticed your comment about the Dao documentation. I looked at the pkgbuild file, and then checked my own system. The directories do not exist, just the demos directory under /usr/local/share/dao/demos

(as a note, I am on Ubuntu 16.04)

zauberparacelsus commented 8 years ago

Looks like it's archived on the wayback machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150804003754/http://www.daovm.net/

I didn't think to check there because usually when cybersquatters snatch up a domain, they modify the robots.txt file with anti-crawler stuff, which causes the wayback machine to retroactively delete the archived pages.

daokoder commented 7 years ago

Recently I have setup a new website: http://daoscript.org. The archived pages are very useful to recover a few key pages for the new website, thanks @zauberparacelsus.

zauberparacelsus commented 7 years ago

Glad the archives were of help, and it's good to see a new website up and running :D

(footnote though, the url of that link differs from the displayed text, and doesn't work. typo, perhaps?)

daokoder commented 7 years ago

My mistake, thanks for pointing it out :-). Now fixed.

dumblob commented 7 years ago

Congratulations @daokoder. I already put registering of domains dao-lang.org and dao-lang.com to my schedule. The names are result of my thought, that when the name is so generic (Dao) and very short, then we need to add something. What many languages use is the lang postfix (Go, Scala, Ruby, Racket, etc.).

Do you think I should register them?

daoscript sounds descriptive from the IT perspective, but in general (as domains are perceived), especially for English native speakers, it designates script (i.e. a totally different thing), but not scripting :cry:.

daokoder commented 7 years ago

daoscript sounds descriptive from the IT perspective

I think this should be good enough.

I have considered dao-lang before, but not sure about it. There is famous Chinese singer named Dao Lang, and there is also a natural language named Dao. This means dao-lang is not a as good name as xxx-lang for other named you mentioned.

dumblob commented 7 years ago

Ok, I won't register any other domains rigt now and hope you'll let me know once you'll get into trouble with maintaining http://daoscript.org , so that I can take over.

By the way, could you please add Let's Encrypt certificate to the domain and allow HTTPS along with HTTP? Browsers, big companies and "the internet" is kind of switching to HTTPS and gives negative score to pages without any SSL certificates.