Open ikarth opened 10 years ago
Last year's generated novel, was pretty good at generating text that had local coherency but wasn't nearly as interesting as a whole. So, this year, I decided to go in the opposite direction. Rather than starting by generating the moment-to-moment text, I started with the overall structure and am gradually working my way down from high-level concepts to smaller and smaller structures.
As a point of literary inspiration, the strongest influence so far has been A Thousand and One Nights, particularly the recursively embedded nature of the stories. The primary architecture of the novel generator is itself recursive, capable of encapsulating another novel generator within itself. The recursive stack of novel generators
As a side effect of this approach, I decided to take advantage of lazy evaluation. Iterating the novel generator produces an infinite sequence containing the generator and it's total past output. It is not currently generating the recursive generators because while the recursive part is implemented, the ability to exit a generator and go back up the generator stack is not.
Having the novel start out infinite means that I'm working backwards and orthogonally from the typical NaNoWriMo algorithm: rather than starting at zero and incrementing upwards by coherently adding words, I'm starting at infinity and gradually introducing coherence and meaningful content.
Nice! I'm taking a similar approach myself, starting with overall plot and narrative arcing and then generating local bits within that arc. https://gist.github.com/dariusk/3b8cd1dd38a0e8e3fe37
@dariusk I think several of us have had similar ideas this time around. My concept also has a striking conceptual resemblance to what @MichaelPaulukonis has been doing. Though his output is much further along.
I'm basing my ideas for the underlying structure partially on the work that Failbetter Games has been doing for things like Fallen London. The generators have lists of templates that they try to assemble according to their internal criteria. This is not very evident in the current output, which is a weakness I hope to fix, but a look under the hood shows a bit more going on:
{:generator-stack
[{:counter 1,
:state
{:subgenerator nil,
:characters
[{:name "Shahryar", :tags {:gender :male}}
{:name "Scheherazade",
:tags {:stories [], :gender :female, :can-tell-stories? true}}],
:scenes [{:tags {:storyteller "Scheherazade"}}],
:events
[{:tags {:storytelling-ending true, :singular-selection true}}],
:output ["And she told them a story. "],
:exit :inward},
:generator
#<nights$make_story$fn__8493 nonogen.stories.nights$make_story$fn__8493@4ce10990>}
{:counter 1,
:state
{:characters
[{:name "Shahryar", :tags {:gender :male}}
{:name "Scheherazade",
:tags {:stories [], :gender :female, :can-tell-stories? true}}],
:scenes [{:tags {:storyteller "Scheherazade"}}],
:events
[{:tags
{:storytelling-ready-to-tell true, :singular-selection true}}],
:output
["So she said, \"It is related, O august king, that...\" "],
:exit nil},
:generator
#<nights$make_story$fn__6974 nonogen.stories.nights$make_story$fn__6974@10a13ab8>}],
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["So she said, \"It is related, O august king, that...\" "
"And she told them a story. "
"So she said, \"It is related, O august king, that...\" "]}
The secondary thing I'm attempting is to embed meaning in the underlying structures themselves, so that even if the surface text is nonsense, there's a foundation of underlying meaning. The structures will, of course, be mostly hand-written, though I did deliberately chose a language that makes it easy for code to be treated as data.
The choice of a recursive structure is useful both for generating a repeating pattern and because it reflects the nature of the code itself, which uses recursive functions as part of the process.
@ikarth -- the 3000 words link is not rendering for me.
@MichaelPaulukonis fixed the link to the gist. It's a little monotonous. Here's a snippet that's very slightly more interesting, demonstrating the recursion: about 150 or so levels of inescapable nested realities: https://gist.github.com/ikarth/afeeaf3a883904bb1720#file-nonogen2014-002-md
It was a dark and stormy night, the ship was sinking; "Tell us a story, Captain!" the crew begged. The Captain began: It was a dark and stormy night, the ship was sinking; "Tell us a story Captain!" the crew begged. The Captain began.....
@MichaelPaulukonis 50,006 words: https://gist.github.com/hugovk/761a8fbe7368aa9c19fa
@hugovk I am greatly amused.
My repository is here, by the way: https://github.com/ikarth/nonogen
https://gist.github.com/ikarth/f38664f8eefcc994e2d6#file-gistfile1-md
Once upon a time, there was [main-character-description] named [main-character-name]. [She] suggested that [she] should tell a story, because it was Alex's birthday. So [she] began, "It is related, O august king, that..." And [she] told a very exciting story.
Then [she] ended [her] story, saying, "But there is another tale which is more marvelous still."
So [she] began, "It is related, O august king, that..." And [she] told a very exciting story.
Then [she] ended [her] story, saying, "But there is another tale which is more marvelous still."
So [she] began, "It is related, O august king, that..." Then [she] told the following story:
Once upon a time, there was [main-character-description] named [main-character-name]. [She] suggested that [she] should tell a story, because it was Alex's birthday. So [she] began, "It is related, O august king, that..." Then [she] told the following story:
It can now come out of inner stories successfully. Plus, randomly shuffles possible story chunks to pick from the next one. Annoyingly, it's currently not deterministic, so you get a different story each time, which is complicating testing.
Curiouser and curiouser....
Tempted to deliberately reproduce Borges' Book of Sand as a web page. Ah well, maybe next year.
Borges' Library of Babel is online: http://dicelog.com/babel
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[She] suggested that [she] should tell a story, because it was Alex's birthday. So [she]
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Then [she] ended [her] story, saying, "But there is another tale which is more marvelous still."
What is this, InfoSecSheherezade? With a shout-out to Kryptos
https://github.com/ikarth/nonogen/blob/master/texts/output/NoNoGen2014-005.markdown Today's update: in-text variables! Now we can actually tell which character is saying what. Which means the next step is to actually add more characters, and to give them more to say. And do.
The other major objective is to add more generators. Right now, there are only two generators: the storytelling one, and the Babel Library Book one. But the system allows me to stack whatever arbitrary text generators I code up. (Downside: I still have to write them.)
Anyway, I'm hoping today marks a shift from core systems to content. If I can get some more stuff in that should make it somewhat more interesting to read. On the plus side, I passed the word count last week with a completion ratio of Infinity%. (I have not read the entire book, just the first 600 lines.)
Now with more characters! It's much easier to follow the nested patterns this way...
Once upon a time, there was a king of Persia named Shahryar, a sister of
Scheherazade named Dunyazad and a queen of Persia named Scheherazade.
Scheherazade suggested that she should tell a story, because it was Alex's
birthday. So she began, "It is related, O august king, that..." And Scheherazade
told a very exciting story. Then Scheherazade ended her story, saying, "But
there is another tale which is more marvelous still."
So she began, "It is related, O august king, that..." This is the story that
Scheherazade told:
Once upon a time, there was a poet exiled from Florence named Dante Alighieri, a
queen of Persia named Scheherazade and a blind poet named Homer. Dante Alighieri
suggested that he should tell a story, because it was Alex's birthday. So he
began, "It is related, O august king, that..." This is the story that Dante
Alighieri told:
Once upon a time, there was a blind poet named Homer, an English poet named
Geoffery Chaucer and an explorer of Venice named Marco Polo. Homer suggested
that he should tell a story, because it was Alex's birthday. So he began, "It is
related, O august king, that..." And Homer told a very exciting story. Then
Homer ended his story, saying, "But there is another tale which is more
marvelous still."
So he began, "It is related, O august king, that..." And Homer told a very
exciting story. "And that was how it happened," Homer said, ending his story.
"And that was how it happened," Dante Alighieri said, ending his story.
Then Scheherazade ended her story, saying, "But there is another tale which is
more marvelous still."
So she began, "It is related, O august king, that..." This is the story that
Scheherazade told:
Once upon a time, there was a poet exiled from Florence named Dante Alighieri, a
lady of the Imperial Court named Murasaki Shikibu and a child trying to go to
Slumberland named Little Nemo. Little Nemo suggested that he should tell a
story, because it was Alex's birthday. So he began, "It is related, O august
king, that..."
Another update: this time I've added labyrinths for the characters to get lost in. The labyrinths are, unbeknownst to the characters, the data structure of the story-state (turned into a zipper).
This is the story that Scheherazade told:
There was once a recursive house of many doors that some call the unknown. Homer must have spoken the unutterable word, because he had arrived in that place. Homer thought that this direction looked promising, and went that way.
Homer entered a luxurious terrace, dominated by divans lining the perimeter which was lined with a repeated pattern of arabseque. Homer opened a door, not feeling quite sure where it lead.
Homer entered a cramped and narrow peristyle, dominated by moki steps framed by a pattern of arabseque. Homer chose an exit at random and walked that way, not knowing that it was indeed the wrong way.
Homer entered a high liwan, dominated by an obelisk framed by a pattern of acanthus. Homer discovered that one of the doors lead somewhere else, passing a reflection in a mirror.
Homer entered a high liwan, dominated by a fallen column framed by a pattern of arabseque. Homer chose an exit at random and walked that way.
Homer entered a liwan, tastefully offset by a fireplace. Homer felt sure that this must be the way out, sparing a passing glance at a mirror.
Homer entered a cramped and narrow peristyle, dominated by moki steps framed by a pattern of arabseque. Homer thought that this direction looked promising, and went that way.
Homer entered a high tetrasoon, tastefully offset by divans lining the perimeter. Homer felt sure that this must be the way out.
Homer entered a high liwan, dominated by an obelisk framed by a pattern of acanthus. Homer felt a bit dizzy at the confusion of doors.
Homer entered a wide and low liwan, dominated by an obelisk framed by a pattern of acanthus. Homer muttered, "North, this way is probably north!" as the door opened.
Homer entered a cramped and narrow liwan, tastefully offset by a fallen column. Homer discovered that one of the doors lead somewhere else, humming a little to relieve the silence.
Homer entered a cramped and narrow liwan, tastefully offset by a fallen column. Homer muttered, "North, this way is probably north!" as the door opened.
Homer entered a wide and low terrace, tastefully offset by a sipapu. Homer wandered, lost in thought.
Homer entered a peristyle, dominated by moki steps framed by a pattern of acanthus. Homer felt sure that this must be the way out.
Homer entered a kiva, tastefully offset by an obelisk. Homer chose an exit at random and walked that way.
Homer entered a liwan, tastefully offset by a trompe-l'oeil fresco. Homer thought that this direction looked promising, and went that way.
Homer entered a fogou, tastefully offset by a fountain. Homer discovered that one of the doors lead somewhere else, humming a little to relieve the silence.
Homer entered a wide and low tetrasoon, dominated by a moasic with a design of arabseque. Homer discovered that one of the doors lead somewhere else, humming a little to relieve the silence.
Homer entered a rough liwan, dominated by an obelisk framed by a pattern of acanthus. Homer felt sure that this must be the way out.
Homer entered a liwan, tastefully offset by a fireplace. Homer chose an exit at random and walked that way, listening to the echo of footsteps.
Homer entered a peristyle, tastefully offset by divans lining the perimeter. Homer opened a door, not feeling quite sure where it lead. Quite unexpectedly Homer discovered the way out.
Then Scheherazade ended her story, saying, "But there is another tale which is more marvelous still."
Not nearly as far along as I'd like, but I'm adding a few additional things today.
Well I didn't expect that to happen:
Jorge Luis Borges entered a terrace, dominated by a fireplace which was lined
with a repeated pattern of arabseque. There was a book here, and he opened
it and read the following page:
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"Well," he said, "I have an unsettling feeling of déjà vu. Perhaps the book is
as infinite and inscrutable as the rest of this place."
"You may not have expected it to Halloween. Bury it's obvious that JLB did.".replace(/halloween/i, 'happen').replace(/Bury/, 'But');
SHEESH. atuo-complete on a phone
On Nov 30, 2014 8:37 PM, "ikarth" notifications@github.com wrote:
Well I didn't expect that to happen:
Jorge Luis Borges entered a terrace, dominated by a fireplace which was lined with a repeated pattern of arabseque. There was a book here, and he opened it and read the following page:
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"Well," he said, "I have an unsettling feeling of déjà vu. Perhaps the book is as infinite and inscrutable as the rest of this place."
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I could keep improving it, but this is a good place to stop for the month.
Completed:
5,665,188 words, with a seed of 5.16746766851914E8 and a running time of 123337.824542 msecs.
Repository can be found here.
Wow. Thirty-eight thousand, three hundred and fourteen point six-three-five kilobytes of Markdown, according to Github.
I quite enjoyed the occasional Korean loanwords. After my browser unfroze after a minute and a half, that is.
After discovering that most Markdown converters choke on 40MB files, I split the 1001-and-then-some stories into several volumes. This matches the original collections of the Thousand Nights and A Night, so it seemed appropriate. The PDF files turned to to be quite readable.
Markdown is the only version that specifically leaves in all of the hash marks, allowing the easy calculation that the deepest nesting of stories was 49. (And the PDF, alas, mangles the Korean.)
@MichaelPaulukonis Why, the person whose birthday it is, of course.
the doshes are still being distimmed by the gostak it seems
After some brainstorming for a fresh idea, looks like I'm in. I think I've got a clever idea. I guess I'll find out if its clever enough.
We'll also see how much I get done, since I'll probably also be taking time off to make something for the ProcGen jam: http://itch.io/jam/procjam