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National Novel Generation Month, 2015 edition.
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NaNoGenMo 2016: Where to host it? #199

Open dariusk opened 7 years ago

dariusk commented 7 years ago

For the last few years I've hosted NaNoGenMo on a Github repository like this one. I've considered it a decent choice because lots of coders already have a Github account, and a Github issue is basically a forum thread with really nice syntax highlighting.

However, there might be better places to organize the 2016 event! Does anyone have any thoughts on where might be better and why?

greg-kennedy commented 7 years ago

Github works for me, you may also consider making a subreddit with fancy flairs for COMPLETED, IN PROGRESS, etc.

enkiv2 commented 7 years ago

Github makes a lot of sense, particularly for everybody who has participated before, but the way we use the issue system has always been confusing for people who are new to it. I'm not opposed to a subreddit if this is deemed likely to lower confusion. Personally, I respond to issues via email & treat this like a newsgroup; if this is more common than interaction in the Github website itself, then something like Google Groups might be an option too -- similar threaded conversation interface with email integration, but without tags, however on the other hand the conversation threads are clearly conversation threads rather than leading people to believe they are bug reports.

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liambaloh commented 7 years ago

If you want to host it yourself, you might want to consider https://github.com/OneHourGameJam/OneHourGameJam as a software solution to power it. If you're interested, let me know, so I have enough time to develop a few extensions (for example hosting text).

For a live demo, see http://onehourgamejam.com/

hugovk commented 7 years ago

GitHub works for me.

There's also things like hackathon.io and WeHack.It but I've never used them.

ikarth commented 7 years ago

Pros for github:

Cons for GitHub:

I lean towards staying on GitHub, but I know how to use GitHub,

For a non-self-hosted solution, itch.io might be one place to look at, at least for submissions.

mcwhittemore commented 7 years ago

I recently found out about NaNoGenMo. This repo has been really cool to read. I agree that more instruction could be put in the README. It also might be wise to have a single repo with labels for each year rather than many repos.

Per the github vs other service question, github is already a part of my normal workflow. This default behavior means I'm much more likely to keep up with what is going on here than if it's in another place. Of course, this is just me, there might be another tool that is already part of people's daily lives. That said, I'd say that if a service/tool is new (ie, people aren't using it yet) it's probs not better than a tool that people in this community are using if only because it means that people have to add it to their daily flow.

bcj commented 7 years ago

I would probably vote for keeping with the current system. It seems like the benefits/effort ratio is good. I guess I don't know if I'd feel the same if I wasn't a programmer who already had a github account though...

greg-kennedy commented 7 years ago

After some thought, I think Github is fine. The biggest issue is finding out where the "action" is. So...

ikarth commented 7 years ago

Of course, if the goal is to find out if new people with no GitHub experience would find another platform more approachable, we'll have a limited window on that via a GitHub discussion...

adregan commented 7 years ago

It would be cool to have a "github pages" page with a list of links to the projects (just so it's easier to see them all). I hesitate to suggest that you add your project link via PR as that might not be very accessible for all.

ikarth commented 7 years ago

That's a good idea. It wouldn't be too hard to designate someone to do the additions at the same time the completed tags get added, so those unfamiliar with pull requests don't need to mess with them...

MichaelPaulukonis commented 7 years ago

Has THIS been pointed out?

https://github.com/nanogenmo

having the repo's under an org might be a good idea, if we're going with github (And if one of the pre-reqs is "post the code online" that feeds into it, and still doesn't remove the "even though you don't have to use github".

Putting a code-based project on Reddit seems... weird. Plus, problematic for people who don't have reddit accounts, and still need a place to post code and for people who break out into hives when they get near Reddit.

Wherever we go - participants still have to create an account and figure out how to post. So wherever we go, there should be a step-by-step guide (carefully vetted by non-programmers w/o an account on the target) to signing up.

MichaelPaulukonis commented 7 years ago

So.... a little more than a week away

How about we continue with github this year, but put it under the NaNoGenMor org?

We can continue to discuss alternatives throughout the next year, with a goal of reaching a decision prior to October 2017, leaving a month for promotion of the chosen location?

greg-kennedy commented 7 years ago

Can we get the 2016 repo up? I already have resources to share.

hugovk commented 7 years ago

If we do put it on https://github.com/NaNoGenMo should it be:

https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/NaNoGenMo-2015

Or:

https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/2015

?

mcwhittemore commented 7 years ago

I'd vote for https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/2016

dariusk commented 7 years ago

I'll get this going.

dariusk commented 7 years ago

It is happening: https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/2016/issues

MichaelPaulukonis commented 7 years ago

Thanks Darius - I tried to get to this over lunch... but no DNS for me!

enkiv2 commented 7 years ago

I agree with Michael and Greg -- while it's important to consider whether to continue with github, it's probably too late to make this decision for this year, since by this point in previous years it was typical for people to already be posting plans or resources.

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enkiv2 commented 7 years ago

Neither, since it's 2016 ;-)

Does github allow project names that begin with a number or contain only numbers? I'd go with NaNoGenMo-2016 only because if I do a clone for some reason I don't really want a directory called "2016".

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If we do put it on https://github.com/NaNoGenMo should it be:

https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/NaNoGenMo-2015

Or:

https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/2015

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greg-kennedy commented 7 years ago

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hugovk commented 7 years ago

@enkiv2 https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/2016 is up! If you do fork it, you can go into settings and change the repo name to NaNoGenMo-2016 or something:

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agladysh commented 7 years ago

NB: When I search for NaNoGenMo and even for NaNoGenMo 2016, 2016 site and repo are not in the first results, which is rather frustrating. Is there everything OK with robots.txt etc. there?

hugovk commented 7 years ago

I see https://github.com/NaNoGenMo/2016 as the second result for "NaNoGenMo 2016". And the previous year's repos are all linking forward to 2016's. I doubt we have any control over robots.txt etc. on GitHub.

agladysh commented 7 years ago

I now see it as a third result. Weird. Ok, sorry for the noise then.

dranorter commented 7 years ago

So, I realize I'm way early here, but, is github what's going to be happening for 2017? I see there's some call above for 'discussion throughout the year'.

hugovk commented 7 years ago

It'll probably be on GitHub, but not necessarily! In any case, the 2016 repo will be updated to point to wherever it happens closer to the time.

There's some discussion at this group: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/generativetext

And the #nanogenmo channel of the #botALLY Slack. https://botally.slack.com