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National Novel Generation Month. Because.
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What happens in December? et alia. #75

Open MichaelPaulukonis opened 10 years ago

MichaelPaulukonis commented 10 years ago

Anybody want to keep talking and coding at cross-purposes to see what germinates?

A group-blog or something to host conversations publically?

Or even another GitHub repo using the Issues like this. which is kinda weird. kinda okay. kinda weird still.

lilinx commented 10 years ago

I would be interested in further discussions but I'm not sure what's the best thing to do. What I like here is the relative effervescence, many people dropping many ideas at once. That is probably due to the "one month" thing, over a period of time I guess everything would gradually become more quiet. We all have other weird things to work on than novel generation...some of us are even busy with unweird things to. What would be good would be to have NaNoGenMo instituted as a regular event...

dariusk commented 10 years ago

Mostly I want to think about this once December rolls around. I'll probably fire up some kind of website for NaNoGenMo and link to all the completed entries for the month. Around that time we'll also discuss what to do beyond that. I was thinking, maybe we could compile a book with excerpts from all the generated novels (with consent of the creators, of course).

lilinx commented 10 years ago

that would be totally amazing

jeffThompson commented 10 years ago

Any continuation would be great: site, book, forum. This has been a fantastic project and a really great little community forming.

enkiv2 commented 10 years ago

If this becomes annual, you can expect me to participate every year.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jeff Thompson notifications@github.comwrote:

Any continuation would be great: site, book, forum. This has been a fantastic project and a really great little community forming.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/dariusk/NaNoGenMo/issues/75#issuecomment-29079115 .

MichaelPaulukonis commented 10 years ago

What would be good would be to have NaNoGenMo instituted as a regular event...

I would like to see this as well.

over a period of time I guess everything would gradually become more quiet. We all have other weird things to work on than novel generation...some of us are even busy with unweird things to.

Well, yes. BUT....

Textual-generation (whether by hand, or semi-autonomously), and the presentation (framing) of same, is one of my interest areas.I have a bunch of other commitments. But I like to keep my hand in. Bouncing ideas off others who are interested, or at least understand some of what I'm talking about, is nice on occasion. Better than blank looks, at any rate. This month has been great for me -- I haven't completed 50K, but I've seen a lot of great ideas and approaches I never heard of before.

Github-as-discussion-chamber is interesting. I might be interested in a blog, a la Gnoetry "daily". If anybody else is interested in continuing some idea-bouncing, albeit slowed-down, after November.

enkiv2 commented 10 years ago

It has been wonderful to see all these various text generation methods (and not just six hundred flavors of markov chains). I'd participate in a low-flow continuation into the rest of the year as well, because generative text is also a major interest of mine.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Michael Paulukonis < notifications@github.com> wrote:

What would be good would be to have NaNoGenMo instituted as a regular event...

I would like to see this as well.

over a period of time I guess everything would gradually become more quiet. We all have other weird things to work on than novel generation...some of us are even busy with unweird things to.

Well, yes. BUT....

Textual-generation (whether by hand, or semi-autonomously), and the presentation (framing) of same, is one of my interest areas.I have a bunch of other commitments. But I like to keep my hand in. Bouncing ideas off others who are interested, or at least understand some of what I'm talking about, is nice on occasion. Better than blank looks, at any rate. This month has been great for me -- I haven't completed 50K, but I've seen a lot of great ideas and approaches I never heard of before.

Github-as-discussion-chamber is interesting. I might be interested in a blog, a la Gnoetry "daily" http://gnoetrydaily.wordpress.com/. If anybody else is interested in continuing some idea-bouncing, albeit slowed-down, after November.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/dariusk/NaNoGenMo/issues/75#issuecomment-29295760 .

ajacks01 commented 10 years ago

"There are 7 billion people on Earth. Someone shares your interests. Make a beacon for them." - Hmmm, gonna have to give this one more thought!

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM, John Ohno notifications@github.comwrote:

It has been wonderful to see all these various text generation methods (and not just six hundred flavors of markov chains). I'd participate in a low-flow continuation into the rest of the year as well, because generative text is also a major interest of mine.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Michael Paulukonis < notifications@github.com> wrote:

What would be good would be to have NaNoGenMo instituted as a regular event...

I would like to see this as well.

over a period of time I guess everything would gradually become more quiet. We all have other weird things to work on than novel generation...some of us are even busy with unweird things to.

Well, yes. BUT....

Textual-generation (whether by hand, or semi-autonomously), and the presentation (framing) of same, is one of my interest areas.I have a bunch of other commitments. But I like to keep my hand in. Bouncing ideas off others who are interested, or at least understand some of what I'm talking about, is nice on occasion. Better than blank looks, at any rate. This month has been great for me -- I haven't completed 50K, but I've seen a lot of great ideas and approaches I never heard of before.

Github-as-discussion-chamber is interesting. I might be interested in a blog, a la Gnoetry "daily" http://gnoetrydaily.wordpress.com/. If anybody else is interested in continuing some idea-bouncing, albeit slowed-down, after November.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub< https://github.com/dariusk/NaNoGenMo/issues/75#issuecomment-29295760> .

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/dariusk/NaNoGenMo/issues/75#issuecomment-29301499 .

MichaelPaulukonis commented 10 years ago

If anybody would like to join https://github.com/TextGenTex let me know. Github and github pages to display works and web-workable engines is a simple way to start out.

@enkiv2 - I've already added you as an org-owner.

catseye commented 10 years ago

One thing I'd like to know, but don't know, is, what sorts of things do people who participate in NaNoWriMo do with their novels, in December, after they've written them or failed to write them...? I'm sure there is no right answer, I'm just kind of curious.

As for maintaining an interest group in the off-season -- frankly, text-generation isn't one of my major interests, but it does fall under the umbrella of things I'm interested in, so yes, I'm interested, although I may not contribute frequently. Back in the old days, people would run mailing lists for this sort of thing. Then forums came along, and they worked less well for the purpose, then blogs came along, and they worked even less well, and then social media came along, and it... yeah. The experience of [ab]using Github issues as a forum has been very interesting. It's clearly not optimized for it, but I found it a lot less annoying to use than most web-forum software.

lilinx commented 10 years ago

Even if I'm not sure I'll publish more generators, I'll be happy to follow further discussions.

I don't know exactly why, but I agree about Github being a very convenient place to discuss projects.

what sorts of things do people who participate in NaNoWriMo do with their novels, in December, after they've written them or failed to write them...?

I don't know about the others but this has inspired me a lot to do a lot of things, some of them only remotely connected to novel generation.

However, I also somehow polished my generators, and wrote stuff about them (pretty much the same things I wrote here but trying to make it clearer and failing)

Even More Ultraviolent Homer http://www.lilinx.com/emhu/ Existing Book Generator http://www.lilinx.com/extexgen/

"Book written by a machine in Toki Pona and interpreted by humans" will evolve into a beautiful project...some day.

ajacks01 commented 9 years ago

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