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Fujifilm X-T5 not listed as supported on Camera Support page #211

Closed ratherlargerobot closed 5 months ago

ratherlargerobot commented 1 year ago

The Fujifilm X-T5 not listed as supported on Camera Support page.

Here are the series of steps (as a user) that describe how I got here.

I tried to load a RAW lossy compressed file from a Fujifilm X-T5 into Darktable 4.2.0, and it gave me an error that directed me to camera support | darktable

That page did not list the Fujifilm X-T5 as being supported by Darktable (it was missing from the table on that page, which is automatically generated dynamically from a different place).

That led me to the What's involved with adding support for new cameras | darktable page, which in turn links back to Pixls.us on this article What’s involved with adding support for new cameras. I considered asking for help there, but the last comment on that thread was two years old, and it seemed like a bad idea.

After more digging, it turns out that Darktable does support the Fujifilm X-T5, but it just doesn’t support the RAW lossy compressed files.

Anyway, I think the Darktable web site should probably list the Fujifilm X-T5 as supported. The release notes say it's supported. And Darktable 4.2.0 itself definitely supports it (or at least the RAW lossless compressed files).

Just to be clear, I’m not asking for lossy RAW file support. That was just an experiment. I want the lossless raw files. But what I’m really trying to say is that the Darktable web site should probably say that it does support the Fujifilm X-T5, when in fact, it does. It took me a while to figure that out.

paperdigits commented 1 year ago

To be honest we should probably move this list into the user manual so we remember to update it every release.

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The Fujifilm X-T5 not listed as supported on Camera Support page.

Here are the series of steps (as a user) that describe how I got here.

I tried to load a RAW lossy compressed file from a Fujifilm X-T5 into Darktable 4.2.0, and it gave me an error that directed me to camera support | darktable

That page did not list the Fujifilm X-T5 as being supported by Darktable (it was missing from the table on that page, which is automatically generated dynamically from a different place).

That led me to the What's involved with adding support for new cameras | darktable page, which in turn links back to Pixls.us on this article What’s involved with adding support for new cameras. I considered asking for help there, but the last comment on that thread was two years old, and it seemed like a bad idea.

After more digging, it turns out that Darktable does support the Fujifilm X-T5, but it just doesn’t support the RAW lossy compressed files.

Anyway, I think the Darktable web site should probably list the Fujifilm X-T5 as supported. The release notes say it's supported. And Darktable 4.2.0 itself definitely supports it (or at least the RAW lossless compressed files).

Just to be clear, I’m not asking for lossy RAW file support. That was just an experiment. I want the lossless raw files. But what I’m really trying to say is that the Darktable web site should probably say that it does support the Fujifilm X-T5, when in fact, it does. It took me a while to figure that out.

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kmilos commented 1 year ago

Related to https://github.com/darktable-org/dtorg/pull/199

paperdigits commented 1 year ago

I'd like to find a way to auto generate that page, or else remove it. The constant maintenance is a burden.

Any help or pointers is appreciated.

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Related to https://github.com/darktable-org/dtorg/pull/199

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rafalkrupinski commented 1 year ago

I'd like to find a way to auto generate that page, or else remove it. The constant maintenance is a burden. Any help or pointers is appreciated.

I remember Hugo can run javascript at build time to generate data, which can be used in a template. But I can't find it in the documentation (no surprise there). There must be some xml, json or csv somewhere with a list of cameras. I help with the js part.

edit: Actually, with a data file it should be possible without javascript.

rafalkrupinski commented 1 year ago

I guess this is the total list https://github.com/darktable-org/rawspeed/blob/develop/data/cameras.xml The readme says it's also unsupported cameras, and I'm not sure how they're marked. Then there's wb presets and noise profile in files in the main darktable project. Not sure about custom matrices.

elstoc commented 1 year ago

I'm all for ways to auto-generate this data. I think it is possible with rawspeed but not for the additional cameras supported by libraw.

I don't agree that this should go in the manual though, since this list sometimes changes even on minor/bugfix releases (and we don't issue new manuals for minor/bugfix releases).

rafalkrupinski commented 1 year ago

Well, with a help of a script and some simple parsing it should be possible to compile the entire list, together with libraw.

Alternatively, the list of libraw cameras could be moved to a JSON data file and either converted to C & included at build time, or just read at runtime.

I see the project already uses python scripts, so I could help with writing it. I've no idea of the build process tho.

paperdigits commented 5 months ago

Updated the table with a wonderful tool written by @Donatzsky - https://github.com/Donatzsky/darktable-camera-support

Updated in https://github.com/darktable-org/dtorg/commit/10b2de8d38710a977358ed2c89cbc1ef71109044

TurboGit commented 5 months ago

That's great ! Congrats to all involved.

paperdigits commented 5 months ago

100% Donatzsky.

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That's great ! Congrats to all involved.

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