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Bioinformatics use case (RNA-Seq analysis) #135

Closed olgabot closed 8 years ago

olgabot commented 10 years ago

Hi @jbenet and @maxogden! Thank you so much for the time you took to meet with @mlovci and me this weekend. Here's an overview of our current data management situation and what our ideal case would be.

What we have now

Currently, we host a datapackages.json file which contains resources with the names "experiment_design" (metadata on the samples, e.g. celltype and colors to plot them with), "expression" (gene expression data), "splicing" (scores of which version of a gene was used). Then, at the end of the file, we have an attribute called "species" (e.g. "hg19" for the human genome build 19) that only works with hg19 and mm10 (Mus musculus aka house mouse genome build 10) because it points to the URL "http://sauron.ucsd.edu/flotilla_projects//datapackage.json", which we hand-curated. So if the data we use is from one of these two species, we can grab the data.

Try this:

On a command line:

git clone git@github.com:YeoLab/flotilla
cd flotilla
pip install -e .

In Python:

import flotilla
study = flotilla.embark("http://sauron.ucsd.edu/flotilla_projects/neural_diff_chr22/datapackage.json")

This will load the data from our server from sauron.ucsd.edu, and since you haven't downloaded anything with that filename yet, it will download it. Additionally, this is a test dataset with only information from human chromosome 22, so it is loadable on a regular laptop. Feel free to look through the code and JSON files. flotilla.data_model.Study.from_data_package does most of the heavy lifting in loading the data. Keep in mind that the project is also in a pre-alpha stage, and has a long way to go :)

What we would like

Two major issues are:

Ideally, we could do something like this:

study = flotilla.embark('neurons')

Which would fetch our mouse and human neuron data, which has some kind of link to ENSEMBL and attach all the relevant metadata about mouse and human genes, and give common keys where possible.

@mlovci - please add on with anything I missed.

bmpvieira commented 10 years ago

Hi @olgabot and @mlovci,

I think for the first major issue you could do something like Dat -> JSON -> Pandas. That is, use Dat for versioning, archiving, distribution, etc, and Pandas for analysis. However, maybe Dat could replace Pandas and provide functionality similar to flotilla when https://github.com/maxogden/dat/issues/133 get's solved?

For the second major issue, you could for now build a pipeline/tool (have a look at gasket) with bionode-ncbi and dat. A bionode-ensembl module is planned, but for now you can use ncbi and do bionode-ncbi search gene ENSG00000100320 | dat import --json. The property name of the object returned by the search has the value RBFOX2 and taxid has the taxon id 9606 corresponding to Homo sapiens. If you do bionode-ncbi search genome txid9606 in the property assembly_name you get the common name of the reference assembly GRCh38. If you do bionode-ncbi search assembly GRCH38 You get an array in meta.FtpSites.FtpPath with two objects. The one that has type RefSeq has property _ with value ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genomes/H_sapiens/. In that FTP folder there's a directory named GFF with the annotations.

Alternatively, you can just update bionode-ncbi and do bionode-ncbi download gff homo sapiens :-P

As we keep adding features to these projects, things will get simpler. What I'm trying to do in my PhD is similar to this use case, first get all metadata and store in Dat, second reformat and query the metadata to find what's interesting to me, third send the reference IDs to the cluster so that the pipeline fetches all the raw data and runs the heavy analysis there.

max-mapper commented 10 years ago

@mlovci hey random question, but can you share the big flowchart diagram you showed me at nodeconf?

mlovci commented 10 years ago

Here @maxogden : http://imgur.com/Ixub1nk.jpg ( I'd appreciate if you credit me when you use it ). I can give you high-res too, if you need it.

@bmpvieira : Just saw this note, I'll try to get bionode-ncbi going and see what happens.

jbenet commented 10 years ago

That's so depressing to me :( It looks like a metabolic pathway in the worst of ways.— Sent from Mailbox

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Michael Lovci notifications@github.com wrote:

Here @maxogden : http://imgur.com/Ixub1nk.jpg

@bmpvieira : Just saw this note, I'll try to get bionode-ncbi going and see what happens.

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/maxogden/dat/issues/135#issuecomment-49511632

mlovci commented 10 years ago

:(

webmaven commented 10 years ago

I find it stimulating, myself. It is nice that the flows are (relatively) straightforward, and aren't tangled into circular references or a big-ball-o-mud, which means parts can be encapsulated at various scales, components switched out, APIs standardized, etc. Thanks, @mlovci!

webmaven commented 10 years ago

@mlovci, an article describing the flow in more detail would likely be rather useful, BTW (and give the image a natural 'home' on the web).

mlovci commented 10 years ago

thanks @webmaven that made me feel better. I'll think about writing an article.

webmaven commented 10 years ago

You're welcome @mlovci. Anyway, the 'metabolic pathways' analogy breaks down since there aren't a bunch of crazy feedback loops (and the couple of places that look like there might be are just because things were moved to fit horizontally).

max-mapper commented 10 years ago

@mlovci @olgabot Heya! We are finally done with the first stable version of dat. Our new website is up at http://dat-data.com/

It would be good to do a google hangout with you guys and @bmpvieira and @mafintosh to discuss how we could start modeling your data pipeline with dat!

olgabot commented 10 years ago

Yes, definitely! Out of curiosity, what's your current hosting solution? If we have some data but no public server, how do we proceed?

Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 18, 2014 8:01 PM, "Max Ogden" notifications@github.com wrote:

@mlovci https://github.com/mlovci @olgabot https://github.com/olgabot Heya! We are finally done with the first stable version of dat. Our new website is up at http://dat-data.com/

It would be good to do a google hangout with you guys and @bmpvieira https://github.com/bmpvieira and @mafintosh https://github.com/mafintosh to discuss how we could start modeling your data pipeline with dat!

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/maxogden/dat/issues/135#issuecomment-52584914.

max-mapper commented 10 years ago

@olgabot we have been hosting mostly on https://www.digitalocean.com/ and working on large file backend hosting on Google Cloud Services, but we are also working on this list of hosts we'd like to support: https://github.com/datproject/discussions/issues/5

olgabot commented 10 years ago

Cool! Would you be available for a hangout tomorrow at 1pm pst?

Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 18, 2014 10:08 PM, "Max Ogden" notifications@github.com wrote:

@olgabot https://github.com/olgabot we have been hosting mostly on https://www.digitalocean.com/ and working on large file backend hosting on Google Cloud Services, but we are also working on this list of hosts we'd like to support: datproject/discussions#5 https://github.com/datproject/discussions/issues/5

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/maxogden/dat/issues/135#issuecomment-52591041.

max-mapper commented 10 years ago

@olgabot yes definitely. @bmpvieira @mafintosh i'll invite you guys to the hangout tomorrow as well in case you wanna join

max-mapper commented 10 years ago

took some notes from the hangout today (mostly random, just posting for archival purposes):

high level rna-seq pipeline notes (probably wrong):

rna* -> bam/sam
     -> metadata
     -> splice junction file

-> gene expression -> tpm
-> splicing -> miso -> miso summary -> percent spliced in (psi)

would be cool:
bam -> dat -> dalliance browser
^ dat could even act as cross-domain (CORS) proxy

random notes/links:

http://i.imgur.com/Ixub1nk.jpg
https://github.com/datproject/discussions/issues/5
dat -> pandas dataframe (can just use csv)
https://github.com/gpratt/gatk/tree/master/public/scala/src/org/broadinstitute/sting/queue/extensions/yeo_scripts/yeo
http://dat-ncbi-arthropod-full.inb.io
SGE
qsub
npm.dathub.org
https://github.com/bionode/bionode#project-status
Ensembl RESTful API http://rest.ensembl.org/

fastq -> vcf, genome map, structural variance

bionode-ensembl
bionode-sra

use google-drive for easily sharing big files over internet
olgabot commented 10 years ago

More Bioinformatics pipelining tools to know about (suggested from @gpratt)

bmpvieira commented 10 years ago

More pipelines/workflows:

thadguidry commented 10 years ago

+1 for Taverna... a few of my bioinformatics friends around Dallas universities and research groups actually use this, and I introduced Taverna to a few of them myself. Taverna already has data integration built in to many external tools as well and there is already a REST and XPATH plugin available as a good starting point for anyone: http://www.taverna.org.uk/documentation/taverna-2-x/taverna-2-x-plugins/#rest

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Bruno Vieira notifications@github.com wrote:

More pipelines/workflows:

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/maxogden/dat/issues/135#issuecomment-52956649.

-Thad +ThadGuidry https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry Thad on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/

gpratt commented 10 years ago

If we are talking about pipeline tools I use http://gatkforums.broadinstitute.org/discussion/1306/overview-of-queue

It works quite well for managing a cluster / wrapping commandline tools.

Gabriel Pratt Bioinformatics Graduate Student, Yeo Lab University of California San Diego

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Thad Guidry notifications@github.com wrote:

+1 for Taverna... a few of my bioinformatics friends around Dallas universities and research groups actually use this, and I introduced Taverna to a few of them myself. Taverna already has data integration built in to many external tools as well and there is already a REST and XPATH plugin available as a good starting point for anyone:

http://www.taverna.org.uk/documentation/taverna-2-x/taverna-2-x-plugins/#rest

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Bruno Vieira notifications@github.com wrote:

More pipelines/workflows:

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/maxogden/dat/issues/135#issuecomment-52956649.

-Thad +ThadGuidry https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry Thad on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/maxogden/dat/issues/135#issuecomment-52960393.

brainstorm commented 10 years ago

@bmpvieira, don't forget about Galaxy: http://galaxyproject.org/

bmpvieira commented 10 years ago

Thanks @brainstorm! Of course, Galaxy should be the first to look. In my head, I thought someone had already mentioned it and was giving alternatives. We talked about Galaxy in the hangout.

saketkc commented 9 years ago

This sounds really cool! I am going to rope in @jmchilton

olgabot commented 9 years ago

Has someone started writing a wrapper for the STAR genome aligner already? I'd like to write a blog post which uses Docker and dat to download the data from this paper (~202gb of sequences), run RNA-seq alignment using either STAR or GSNAP, quantify gene expression using RSEM, create a matrix of expression values for all genes and all samples (~350 samples), and then using flotilla to recreate all the figures.

joehand commented 8 years ago

Moved https://github.com/datproject/discussions/issues/46

webmaven commented 8 years ago

@joehand, it looks like you missed copying over the last comment by olgabot.