APPLE TV 3.0 Update. Will the Patchstick still work?

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What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. Update ATV with 3.0 Software

Does the Patchstick still work?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by jerry.wi...@gmail.com on 29 Oct 2009 at 7:48

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I'm curious to get folks take on the solution offered by ATVFlash.  It seems 
like it
offers very similar functionality to the ATVUSB solution and is already 
compatible
with AppletV 3.0.  Any thoughts?

Original comment by steve.s....@gmail.com on 4 Nov 2009 at 5:20

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We do not discuss commercial patchstick solutions here. We believe that we 
offer a 
superior solution, starting with the fact that our work is free and open 
source. It 
also receives recognition from the XBMC and Boxee development community. I 
believe 
the product you mentioned uses the Launcher project to run Boxee&XBMC. Launcher 
is 
developed for free by stephan.diederich and is integrated into atv-usb. Why 
would 
you pay for the very same Launcher?

Work has begun on Launcher 3.2 to enable XBMC support, and if they are still 
using 
Launcher to run XBMC and Boxee, then no they are not 100% 3.0 compatible, they 
would 
then be using the alpha and beta builds that are being made. Therefore they are 
only 
3.0 compatible after atv-usb is as the Launcher they use has not been developed.

I've never used said product, so I can't comment on it's functionality and how 
good 
it is, but me personally, I've never had a problem with the free patchstick 
provided 
on this site, which is why I decided to help out with the Windows version. The 
developers of Launcher are also affiliated with this patchstick project, where 
as 
said product is a third party. I know which one will be better at providing 
support 
with Launcher.

Both Mac and Windows versions install SSH and BinUtils on the Apple TV 
successfully 
still. The usr/pwd is still frontrow, frontrow. Unfortunately SoftwareMenu is 
not 
compatible and the developer is not active in the community, therefore it is 
not 
coming back to any patchstick.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 4 Nov 2009 at 10:01

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I ran the update to 3.0 and was unable to use XBMC, boxee etc. I followed Brad's
instructions using the launcher by sdavilla. For those out there getting 
errors,It
took me twice to do it, but now my xbmc works great as it did before, so don't 
get
discouraged. Remember if you new to ssh'ing in EVERY thing has to be exact or it
won't work properly.

Original comment by shadowja...@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2009 at 1:03

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Ditto above. I ran my existing (atvusb-creator) patchstick on my 3.0 AppleTV. 

I then followed the SSH instructions at
http://www.appletvhacks.net/2009/11/03/apple-tv-3-0-nitotv-xbmc-boxee-and-others
-now-working/#more-532.

I'm only interested in Boxee (for iPlayer mostly) It works a treat. Menu is far
easier to use, boxee and XBMC more tightly integrated. Go do it, it's dead 
easy! 

Original comment by jonesthe...@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2009 at 9:54

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I keep reading that the 2.4 patchstick still works, but that you then have to 
take
additional steps to make everything work properly and remove the non-working 
features
(not good the computer challenged).  Will there be an update posted that takes 
care
of all the extra steps automatically and removes the incompatible portions?  The
latest post in the Downloads section is still from August and is labeled with 
2.4. 
Being less technical, this would really, really be appreciated.

Original comment by steve.s....@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2009 at 2:17

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Sadly, without Couchsurfer working there is no way I can update to OS3. I need 
CouchSurfer to get past the 24 hour sign-in screen that the wireless network in 
the 
hotel I am staying at has. 

Otherwise I would need to use an additional access point and router to get past 
it.

Original comment by jerry.wi...@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2009 at 2:24

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:(

Original comment by steve.s....@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2009 at 2:56

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@Steve.S.Buecheler.

I know I haven't updated the windows release since early September. On the 31st 
work 
was already underway and the adjustments made. I am now simply waiting for 
Launcher 
to go out of beta before I incorporate it and it will be done. SoftwareMenu 
will be 
removed, and the interface will be revamped for versions above 3.x (I will just 
issue a standard update with 3.0)

jerry.withers: I am sorry that you can't update to 3.0. You will have to talk 
to the 
dev about that. We only make the patchstick - it is Apple's firmware update 
that has 
caused these problems. 

I hope that's cleared some things up.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 6 Nov 2009 at 4:34

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@Sam - will you also update the Mac version?

Original comment by HiTekAlex@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2009 at 4:51

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I have nothing to do with the Mac version. It's Davilla's department. I am sure 
he 
will update it as a major firmware update has come out (3.0). He had not 
updated the 
Mac version since last November, about a year, and the Windows version was not 
being 
updated either. There was perfectly good reason for this: The process did not 
change 
at all, all that needed to be updated was the DMG used. Rather than spend time 
updating the download links in the apps, he created a Choose DMG button (for 
Mac) so 
that all versions worked with future versions. I have improved the Windows 
version 
by giving it a UI, the same Choose DMG, updating download links etc... The time 
Davilla saves he puts into XBMC. 

And that is a general roadmap of where we're going with the whole thing.

However, since it's 3.0 and the current solutions do not offer compatible 
versions 
of Launcher, it will be updated. This will only happen when Launcher 3.2 is 
finalised. We will always do our best to support the latest versions.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 6 Nov 2009 at 7:16

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Sam Nazarko-

Just to close the loop on this.  Here is the response from their Customer 
Service:

"Yes, the current version of aTV Flash (4.0) is fully compatible with  
the current 3.0 AppleTV software.  The XBMC/Boxee Launcher application  
is included."

Original comment by steve.s....@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2009 at 7:58

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Firstly, the issues page is for issues with this product, not another. Please 
keep 
that in mind.

If they are claiming to have full support then good on them. I was under the 
impression they bundled in a copy o'Launcher. If this is the case then they 
have 
XBMC support only at the moment and are using beta software in their final 
releases. 

To be honest, I couldn't care less about their progress, I am more concerned 
about 
our product, the free alternative that's just as good as any other patchstick 
out 
there.

:)

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 7 Nov 2009 at 3:03

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Understood.  Thanks for the replies.

Original comment by steve.s....@gmail.com on 7 Nov 2009 at 3:21

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I just want the AppleTV to run files from a USB stick (with perian installed). 
I have a new appleTV with 3.0 on it. 
What are the apps /plug-in I need. I am not interested in other apps or 
options. I would appreciate a comment 
on this what to do for this. 

Original comment by jvanr...@gmail.com on 7 Nov 2009 at 9:00

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I always get the error of 

XBMC/Boxee exited with status 4

anyone who knows what it means??

grtzzz

Jupil

Original comment by jupi...@gmail.com on 7 Nov 2009 at 12:32

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Think it's a memory issue?

Not sure. Try rebooting aTV or restoring it.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 7 Nov 2009 at 3:43

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Have you got the 10.4.9 combo installer dmg & recovery.dmg files in your 
~/Documents folder on your ATV 
when you try to patch 3?

I ended up having to do a factory restore then patching with a fresh install on 
a usb. I tend to do this for every 
update - gets rid of any cruft - but not everyone has the time or patience to 
do this each time.

Original comment by paultr...@gmail.com on 8 Nov 2009 at 12:30

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UPDATE: 3.0.1 released to fix an issue where content goes missing. Patchstick 
still 
works if using the beta launcher.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 8 Nov 2009 at 4:58

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I followed the above instructions on 
http://www.appletvhacks.net/2009/11/03/apple-tv-3-0-nitotv-xbmc-
boxee-and-others-now-working/#more-532
to the letter, but when I try to start boxee or xbmc I get the following:
An error occurred.
Press play/pause to restart your Apple TV.

I'm guessing the link on the interface is broken. please help.

Original comment by Jorge.Ca...@gmail.com on 8 Nov 2009 at 11:34

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@Jorge.Campos75
If you are running 3.0.1 then you need to run these commands (from
http://www.appletvhacks.net/2009/11/03/apple-tv-3-0-nitotv-xbmc-boxee-and-others
-now-working/#more-532):

sudo mount -uw /
cd /users/frontrow/
wget http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/858897/XBMC/Launcher-3.2.beta3-debug.run
chmod +x Launcher-3.2.beta3-debug.run
./Launcher-3.2.beta3-debug.run
sudo mount -ur /

Original comment by elightbo on 10 Nov 2009 at 2:12

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I absolutely agree that this free and open source version is better but when 
can we 
expect a 3.0 release that addresses the apple tv 3.0 update?

Original comment by vim...@gmail.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 12:27

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I also want a 3.0 Patchstick download too, but I think they are having some 
technical difficulties with certain aspects of the PatchStick Update including 
some 
developers who have left the project.

Original comment by steve.s....@gmail.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 3:33

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Don't spread rumors, no developers have left the project. A new patchstick 
distro is pending and will get 
released when it's done and not before.

Original comment by sdavi...@gmail.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 3:44

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steve.s.buechler. You are talking rubbish here. We've not lost any devs, infact 
we 
gained one in August (me). The patchstick process is absolutely fine. It's the 
same 
as before, we just need to update a couple of files. We haven't done that yet 
because we are not out of beta with Launcher yet.

I am curious as to why you think we have project issues. 

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 10 Nov 2009 at 4:05

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I remeber reading that the developer for Software Menu has left the community. 
Is 
that not true?

With NitoTV working I can let Software Menu go, but I can not patch to 3.0 
without 
Couchsurfer or something similiar working.

Original comment by jerry.wi...@gmail.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 4:35

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TomCool (Software Menu author) was seen recently on irc and was working on 3.x 
fixes. 

Original comment by sdavi...@gmail.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 4:38

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Well that is great!

Now all I need is a CouchSurfer miracle and I am in the clear.

Original comment by jerry.wi...@gmail.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 4:49

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He was inactive for a while, but even so, SoftMenu dev does not work on the 
patchstick. We just integrated his work. 

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 10 Nov 2009 at 5:14

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can someone post a direct link to the 3.0.1 update from the apple site? I tried 
to use 
the atv-win version to patch my 3.0 ATV today, but the link to the dmg file of 
FW 3.0 
is no longer available.

Thanks.

Original comment by sonny.be...@gmail.com on 11 Nov 2009 at 7:38

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Sorry everyone. Continued digging and found a direct link to the the 3.0.1 FW 
in the 
AkwardTV wiki.

Here is a direct link to everyone else that may look for 
it:http://mesu.apple.com/data/OS/061-7491.20091107.TVA31/2Z694-6004-003.dmg

And while I'm adding a comment, THANKS to the developers of this wonderful 
patchstick 
solution!

Original comment by sonny.be...@gmail.com on 11 Nov 2009 at 7:54

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Looks like Launcher 3.2 was released. Looking forward to a new patchstick.

Original comment by davidhil...@gmail.com on 13 Nov 2009 at 11:03

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That's great! Having a patchstick for the 3.0 Apple tv is going to make things 
a lot 
easier!

Original comment by vim...@gmail.com on 14 Nov 2009 at 12:56

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Just created a new patchstick based on the instructions / 3.0 image file: 
http://mesu.apple.com/data/OS/061-7491.20091107.TVA31/2Z694-6004-003.dmg.  the 
stick 
created A-OK, but after uploading to the ATV, I see the software menu option, 
complete sub menus: 3rd party plugs/manage built in scripts/Restart Finder & 
Settings, but same as B4, none of the sub menus work.  

Original comment by Ray....@gmail.com on 14 Nov 2009 at 6:48

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Sorry, I forgot to complete the last post 

Just created a new patchstick based on the instructions / 3.0 image file: 
http://mesu.apple.com/data/OS/061-7491.20091107.TVA31/2Z694-6004-003.dmg.  the 
stick 
created A-OK, but after uploading to the ATV, I see the software menu option, 
complete sub menus: 3rd party plugs/manage built in scripts/Restart Finder & 
Settings, but same as B4, none of the sub menus work.  

& I don't see anything about Boxee or XBMC eventhough I saw XBMC loading during 
the 
ATV flash.

Original comment by Ray....@gmail.com on 14 Nov 2009 at 6:57

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It is necessary to update your Launcher installation.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 14 Nov 2009 at 3:46

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You can fix it by going to the Software Menu web link directly 
(http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/SoftwareMenu) 
and manually installing his new program, which for some reason is not included 
in the patch stick. It will add a 
bunch more options and all the menu items will start to work again. DONT 
DOWNLOAD THE ATV LOADER until 
they fix it. I just crashed my ATV with it.

Original comment by TheN...@gmail.com on 22 Nov 2009 at 8:22

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I made my first ever Patchstick last night, with the latest ATV.dmg, 3.0.1, and 
the Launcher update as 
described here in other posts. 
Everything went OK, Boxee, and XBMC installed no problem, except the Software 
menu>sub menus. None of 
them worked.
 Can someone please explain to a novice, how I manually install the program from 
(http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/SoftwareMenu)?
I am running 10.6.2

Thanks

Original comment by bill...@gmail.com on 22 Nov 2009 at 10:40

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I updated Software Menu within using its own update option and not the menu has 
disappeared. I tried using the script via SSH that the author suggests but 
still no 
luck getting it back. BTW, this is still under 2.4 as I am not able to yet 
upgrade to 
3.01.

Seems version 0.90 might be the last that works with 2.4.

Original comment by jerry.wi...@gmail.com on 22 Nov 2009 at 10:46

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I cannot seem to get this to download on my USB. Have tried 2 different USB and 
reformatted using different 
scenarios. Any advice as exactly how to make this on my USB?
Thanks,
Ken

Original comment by kee...@gmail.com on 22 Nov 2009 at 2:24

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SoftwareMenu is a third party tool therefore I can't help you with it much. 
However, 
as the current version does not run on 3.0 it is impossible to update it 
because the 
updater doesn't work properly.

You should delete your current SoftwareMenu and SSH in and install the latest 
version which is confirmed to work.

Or you can wait for our patchstick to be updated.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 22 Nov 2009 at 2:41

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I am using ATV OS 2.4 and can not get Software menu back. I was able to copy it 
via 
SSH to the ATV, but I can not move it over to the System directory where it 
needs to 
go.

I tried the "Sudo -s mount -uw" (or something along those lines,  but can not 
get 
write authorization to put it where it needs to go. 

Original comment by jerry.wi...@gmail.com on 23 Nov 2009 at 9:04

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I can't seem to find the 3.0 dmg all the links go to apple with an unable to 
find link. Does anyone know where to 
get the file from?

Original comment by zguerin...@gmail.com on 24 Nov 2009 at 11:17

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Apple periodically remove links to old firmwares, the latest firmware is all 
that 
remains (aka 3.0.1).

Here's a link to latest fw for you: http://mesu.apple.com/data/OS/061-
7491.20091107.TVA31/2Z694-6004-003.dmg

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 24 Nov 2009 at 6:25

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The link has broken off. Copy and paste it don't click it.

Original comment by Sam.Nazarko on 24 Nov 2009 at 6:25

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I managed to download the 3.0.1 dmg from
http://mesu.apple.com/data/OS/061-7491.20091107.TVA31/2Z694-6004-003.dmg few 
minutes
ago. 

I *think* the link to the latest version is contained in the
http://mesu.apple.com/version.xml file. It seems to be...

Original comment by m...@ttcave.ca on 24 Nov 2009 at 6:27

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Thanks guys for help locating that. Last night every time I would get to the 
apple 
website I would get a message saying the file could not be found. I appreciate 
the 
help, now off to ssh into atv for the 1st time. Hopefully it is as easy as 
Boxee 
makes it sound.

Original comment by zguerin...@gmail.com on 25 Nov 2009 at 3:00

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"please please please, i for some reason used patchstick.ca to patchstick my 
atv but
want to revert back to my atv-usb-creator."
The only way I got back from the same place was to revert to factory settings, 
and then upgrade to 3.0.1 and 
then run atv-usb creator. Yes, it took a while. To revert to factory settings, 
hold the menu and down arrow keys 
until the light on the unit turns orange. You will be asked to pick a language, 
and then a screen with three 
choices, one of which is revert to factory settings (or something similar)

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