Ideas for low handsize archetype

IceTyp commented 2 years ago

This archetypes builds around having a low handsize. Therefore, drawing cards is bad for this archetype (unless you can play all cards).

TODO

[ ] find name for archetype
- maybe Tidy or Isolated
[x] A disposition archetype should work.
[ ] finish cards
- [ ] card names
- [ ] effects
- [ ] upgrades
- [ ] rarities
[ ] add more plushies
[ ] add memories

Synergy

Discard effects would work well with this archetype. Thematically, I don't think this archetype should offer such effects by itself. However, other archetypes with discard effects synergize well.

0-cost cards work well because they make it easier for the player to play all cards and end the turn with no cards in hand.

Theme

clean everything up, finish everything, no leftovers

The dreamer is captured in this nightmare because they always push themselves to finish everything. In their nightmare, cards are the objects that need to be finished. Play all cards and the dreamer will be satisfied.

Mechanical themes

primary: keep handsize low/play all cards
secondary: increase immersion in order to play more cards
- something different might work better here

Cards

Some cards work better if your handsize is low. Some can only be played as last card in hand. Others give drawbacks for large handsize.
Other cards have strong effects. As "downside" they reduce your handsize for your next turn. This is great for this archetype but not as helpful for others.

I have added some cards with a tag called Urgent, see: https://github.com/db0/hypnagonia/issues/422

ID	Name	Type	Cost	Tags	Effect	upgrade1	upgrade2	upgrade3	Rarity	Theme/Flavor
Action1		Action	0		Deal 8 interpretation. Gain 1 doubt for each card in hand (excluding this card).	13, 3	8, 1	11, 2	common
Action2		Action	1		Deal 9 interpretation. If this is the last card in your hand, interpret all other torments for 9.	13, 19	11, 11		common
Action3	Efficiency	Action	1		Deal 20 interpretation. Draw 2 cards less at the end of this turn.	30, 3	20, 1		rare	Having found a more efficient way, you also clean up some stuff that you initially kept for another day.
Action4	Let’s repair it!	Action	1		Deal 12 interpretation. Put a "What a mess!" Perturbation (see below) on top of your deck (temporarily).	20, 2	15		uncommon	You tried to repair something. This resulted in even more work.
Action5	Finally done!	Action	1		Can only be played if this is the last card in your hand. Deal 10 interpretation. Gain 10 confidence.	15, 15	20, 10		uncommon
Action6		Action	1		Deal 8 interpretation. If you have fascination, deal 12 interpretation instead.				uncommon
Action7		Action	'1 for each card in hand (including this card)		Deal 20 interpretation.	30	40, forget		uncommon
Action8		Action	1	Urgent	Deal 15 interpretation.				common
Concentration1	That’s enough!	Concentration	1		Gain 1 immersion each turn. Whenever you draw a card during your turn, gain 1 doubt.	in starting hand	cost 0	1, 1	starting
Concentration2		Concentration	1		TODO Some thematic buff. Draw one card less at the end of each turn.				uncommon
Concentration3	Remaining energy	Concentration	2		Gain 4 confidence for each immersion that is not used at the end of your turn.	in starting hand	6		rare
Concentration4		Concentration	2		If you have not drawn any cards during your turn, gain 2 fascination.	in starting hand	cost 1		rare
Control1		Control	0		TODO Some thematic buff. Gain 1 doubt for each card in hand. (excluding this card)				common
Control2		Control	0		Gain 7 confidence. Draw 1 card less at the end of this turn.	10			uncommon
Control3		Control	0		Gain 2 immersion. Draw 1 card less at the end of this turn.	3 immersion	4, 2		uncommon
Control4		Control	1		Gain 12 confidence. Permanently decrease this value by 1 whenever this card is discarded at the end of your turn.	20, 3	15, 1		common
Control5		Control	1		Gain 10 confidence. If this is the last card in your hand, gain 1 courage.	10, 2	13, 1		common
Control6	It’s getting better!	Control	2		Gain 12 confidence. Permanently increase this value by 1.	cost 1, 9 confidence	17		uncommon
Control7		Control	1	Urgent	10 Confidence, 1 Fascination				common
Control8		Control	1	Urgent	Gain 7 confidence. ???				starting
Perturbation1	What a mess!	Perturbation	1	Cherish	If this card is in your hand at the end of your turn, gain 1 disinterest. Forget				na	“Sooner or later, I need to clean this up…”
Perturbation2	Growing problems	Perturbation	'1 (+1 permanently whenever this card is discarded at the end of your turn.)		Forget				na	“If I don't do it now, I will have even more work later.”
Perturbation3		Perturbation	2	Urgent					na
Plushie1		Plushie			Whenever you end your turn with no cards in hand, gain 1 fascination.				starting

See also https://github.com/db0/hypnagonia/issues/280#issuecomment-1232575210 for the initial ideas.

Other ideas

A similar concept would be ending your turn with no immersion. However, this is usually very easy. This would be more interesting in combination with having no cards in hand at the end of your turn.

Issues

Most archetypes benefit from draw effects. This might make synergy with this archetype difficult.

Draw effects from Plushies can be very dangerous for this archetype. As long as the player is not forced to take such a Plushie, there should not be a problem. Otherwise, deactivating unwanted Plushies could be an option but this would require more thought.

SkylarkHYP commented 2 years ago

Ok, as a veteran archetype creator. Here is my suggestions, and feedback! @IceTyp and @db0

The archetype you have here has some really cool synergy capabilities and could work well in improving vindictive, laser cannon, and exploited, as well as adding some flair to abus. relat.! I like the idea of numerical sequencing for cards, and this would even make 0 cost decks viable with some right card draw!

Definitely do see some balance issues, but that's ok! (I usually make my archetypes too OP anyways) :D

Archetype name

Archetype name is very important when it comes to flavor. This does sound like a disposition archetype to me . Combined with my personal rating 1 out of 10) Here are some name ideas:

Biased 3
Structured 4
Algorithmic. 7
Poor 5
Yielding 4
Isolated 6 (Would prob. have the best flavor combined with your theme and mechanics).
Solitary/lonely 8
Nitpicky 9
Tidy 9
Stingy 8

We can decide card names if any of these look good to you!

Issue solutions

Draw card issue: A quick fix would to add a starter plushie that reads "Whenever you are prompted to draw x cards, you may discard x cards instead", or "All discard cards have +1 value the first time they are played each ordeal"

IceTyp commented 2 years ago

Thank you for your feedback especially the name ideas.

I agree that the cards are not balanced yet. This is something I'm working on. I will also think of some other cards that could work with this archetype.

Archetype Name

Although, I've initially planned to develop an injustice archetype, it is completely fine for me if we go for disposition instead.

Regarding the name, I would go with either Isolated or Tidy. I'm not completely sure what would work best here. Maybe we should go for something else instead. But here I'm open for suggestions.

Issue with card draw plushies

I think at this time, there is nothing problematic about that. I'm not sure if there are any situations where the player is forced to take a specific (card draw) plushie, but those situations are pretty rare. That said, it is definitely something to look out for.

db0 commented 2 years ago

Cheers peeps. Keep at it. Once I have some time I'll add it.

IceTyp commented 2 years ago

I've added a few more cards. Some have a new tag (see: https://github.com/db0/hypnagonia/issues/422). This tag is not yet finished but I think it would work thematically well with this archetype. It is definitely no problem for me if we don't add this tag to the game. In this case, we would need to find some other cards for the archetype (or reuse other cards).

I also added IDs to the cards (and plushies) so it is easier for us to discuss them.

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