[Incubator] Creative Valley (France)

db0company commented 11 years ago

Contact the Epitech Incubator Creative-Valley: http://www.creative-valley.fr/ yanngozlan@pandp.fr laurent.kaczmarek@gmail.com

JWepi commented 11 years ago

What shall we say to them ?

glouvigny commented 11 years ago

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, JW notifications@github.com wrote:

What shall we say to them ?

I don't really know, try to explain why :

our project is great
we need money

Get back to us before sending anything.

JWepi commented 11 years ago

I think that, before asking anything from them (especially money u_u) we better simply present our project, and ask them what they are able to do for us (even if we still know what's the point of their organization). This way we may know more precisely the extent of what they intent to do for us.

What about this :

"Bonjour,

Je me permet de vous contacter sur le conseil de Laurent Kaczmarek afin de vous présenter le projet sur lequel mon groupe et moi-même travaillons actuellement dans le cadre de notre projet Epitech (EIP) et autour duquel nous avons l'espoir de monter une start-up, de savoir si il vous était possible de contribuer à la réalisation de celui-ci, et si c'était effectivement le cas, dans quelle mesure.

Ce projet auquel nous travaillons actuellement est en fait une application à orientation sociale et ludique, dont le principe, pour l'exposer simplement, est d'ajouter à la vie quotidienne de ses utilisateurs un "plug-in" d'"achievements".

Concrètement, notre outil à pour objectif de permettre à tous de se lancer des défis au quotidien, dont la réussite éventuelle déboucherait sur l'obtention de badges de réalisation dans la même idéologie que celle que l'on retrouve dans les jeux vidéos, ou via des outils adressés aux gamers tels que steam, le xbox live etc ..

Ce projet répond au désir, au besoin qu'ont les gens en général, de pimenter leur vie de tous les jours, de se dépasser, et de diffuser du contenu relatif à leurs exploits (photos, vidéos, commentaires ...) auprès de leur amis ou auprès du monde entier, chose que notre application est à même de leur proposer.

Veuillez noter que, dans le cadre de notre stratégie de communication, nous désirons garder secret les détails relatifs à notre projet ainsi que le nom qui le baptisera, et c'est pourquoi au stade actuel nous nous refusons à délivrer de plus amples informations le concernant.

D'avance merci pour l'intérêt que vous porterez à ce message , et pour vos retours suite à cette prise de contact.

Cordialement,"

glouvigny commented 11 years ago

2013/7/30 JW notifications@github.com

I think that, before asking anything from them (especially money u_u) we better simple present our project, and ask them what they are able to do for us (even if we still know what's the point of their organization). This way we may know more precisely the extent of what they intent to do for us.

What about this :

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubateur_d'entreprises

I knew that talking about money wasn't the best idea, but no one usually answer anyway :)

I don't really like the « "plug-in" d'"achievements » part, but that's our usual yada yada.

You may talk about the monetization part, it's what Laurent Kaczmarek liked about our project (eg. I got my driver's license -> ads for cars shown on website)

JWepi commented 11 years ago

Okay what about adding this to the actual message :

"Pour ce qui est des revenus que nous espérons générer au travers de notre application, nous nous proposerons de mettre en place un système de publicité (très) ciblé, qui est envisageable du simple fait de la masse d'informations qu'il nous sera possible d'obtenir sur un utilisateur, et ce en "temps réel" grâce aux "achievements" qu'il débloquera au fur et à mesure. Par exemple, si un utilisateur débloque le badge "obtention du permis de conduire", nous pourrons lui diffuser de la publicité visant à lui faire acheter sa première voiture."

Also I know what a "incubateur d'entreprises" is (dunno the english word for this ... company incubator ? u_u) and what is the purpose of it. But what this kind of organization do, and what it is ready to do for us is not the same thing in my mind =D

db0company commented 11 years ago

This is absolutely not our business plan. No, we will not put any kind of "visible" advertisement on our game.

We use a business-to-business approach: as a company, any size, you can add a package of achievements to our game for a certain price, and, depending on the package you have, you will be more or less visible by the users. (suggestions of achievements).

Here is a speech I gave for a business class assignment, which present the business plan in a very very informal way: https://gist.github.com/db0company/6114415

Note that our business plan is still unclear at this time, and we will have a meeting soon with the business team of the project to clarify it.

To present the project on a user perspective, you should use the latest communication documents we wrote: https://labeip.epitech.eu/svn/2014/lavieestunjeu/rendu/book/textes/

I also don't like the word "plug-in". Last time we use it was probably more than one year ago :P

JWepi commented 11 years ago

Got it ^_^

Let me write something new EDIT: I guess i shall wait the meeting ...

(dunno why "plug-in" is stuck in my head u_u what about using "module" instead ?)

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, db0 notifications@github.com wrote:

This is absolutely not our business plan. No, we will not put any kind of "visible" advertisement on our game.

We use a business-to-business approach: as a company, any size, you can add a package of achievements to our game for a certain price, and, depending on the package you have, you will be more or less visible by the users. (suggestions of achievements).

Here is a speech I gave for a business class assignment, which present the business plan in a very very informal way: https://gist.github.com/db0company/6114415

Note that our business plan is still unclear at this time, and we will

have a meeting soon with the business team of the project to clarify it.

To present the project on a user perspective, you should use the latest communication documents we wrote: https://labeip.epitech.eu/svn/2014/lavieestunjeu/rendu/book/textes/

I also don't like the word "plug-in". Last time we use it was probably more than one year ago :P

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db0company commented 11 years ago

You don't have to wait, you can still have a general idea of what we want to do. If they ask for the business plan, then yes, we'll have to wait for the meeting. Otherwise, a general presentation should be fine.

JWepi commented 11 years ago

What about this :

"Pour ce qui est des revenus que nous espérons générer au travers de notre application, nous nous proposerons de mettre à disposition d'entreprises avec lesquelles nous aurons préalablement établis des partenariats, un moyen de mettre en ligne des "achievements" personnalisés en référence à leur activité, et ce afin de galvaniser l'engouement des utilisateurs à leur encontre. Il va sans dire que plus l'investissement de l'entreprise partenaire sera important, plus ses "achievements" personnalisés seront mis en avant au travers de notre application."

Also, should I put an example ?

db0company commented 11 years ago

I don't think you have to put an example, but if you do so, make sure to make it fictional (not the name of a real company). It's hard for me to get an outside point of view to know if we need an example to clarify it or not :/

db0 (Barbara Lepage) http://db0.fr Sent from my Nexus 7 On Jul 30, 2013 1:03 PM, "JW" notifications@github.com wrote:

What about this :

"Pour ce qui est des revenus que nous espérons générer au travers de notre application, nous nous proposerons de mettre à disposition d'entreprises avec lesquelles nous aurons préalablement établis des partenariats, un moyen de mettre en ligne des "achievements" personnalisés en référence à leur activité, et ce afin de galvaniser l'engouement des utilisateurs à leur encontre. Il va sans dire que plus l'investissement de l'entreprise partenaire sera important, plus ses "achievements" personnalisés seront mis en avant au travers de notre application."

Also, should I put an example ?

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JWepi commented 11 years ago

Yeah I don't think we need one either, since everything sounds clear and bright to me °° But well ... people do like examples to have a better understanding of a concept ... I also think that as a first contact it shall be enough and we can still explain further this idea in the future if need.

2013/7/31 db0 notifications@github.com

I don't think you have to put an example, but if you do so, make sure to make it fictional (not the name of a real company). It's hard for me to get an outside point of view to know if we need an example to clarify it or not :/

db0 (Barbara Lepage) http://db0.fr Sent from my Nexus 7 On Jul 30, 2013 1:03 PM, "JW" notifications@github.com wrote:

What about this :

"Pour ce qui est des revenus que nous espérons générer au travers de notre application, nous nous proposerons de mettre à disposition d'entreprises avec lesquelles nous aurons préalablement établis des partenariats, un moyen de mettre en ligne des "achievements" personnalisés en référence à leur activité, et ce afin de galvaniser l'engouement des utilisateurs à leur encontre. Il va sans dire que plus l'investissement de l'entreprise partenaire sera important, plus ses "achievements" personnalisés seront mis en avant au travers de notre application."

Also, should I put an example ?

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glouvigny commented 11 years ago

Le 31 juil. 2013 01:16, "db0" notifications@github.com a écrit :

make it fictional (not the name of a real company).

Why?

It's hard for me to get an outside point of view to know if we need an example to clarify it or not :/

During our communication interview, Laurent wasn't interested until Nicolas gave him the car ad example I gave earlier.

db0company commented 11 years ago

OK, so give examples.

db0 (Barbara Lepage) http://db0.fr Sent from my Nexus 7 On Jul 31, 2013 1:35 AM, "Guillaume Louvigny" notifications@github.com wrote:

Le 31 juil. 2013 01:16, "db0" notifications@github.com a écrit :

make it fictional (not the name of a real company).

Why?

It's hard for me to get an outside point of view to know if we need an example to clarify it or not :/

During our communication interview, Laurent wasn't interested until Nicolas gave him the car ad example I gave earlier.

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JWepi commented 11 years ago

Well i guess it's better to give examples when you are speaking oraly but, since we are going to send a mail ...

Anyway I can add something like this if you want :

"Pour ce qui est [...] des utilisateurs à leur encontre.

Il serait par exemple intéressant pour un fabricant d'automobiles, de créer un badge au nom de sa compagnie "J'ai acheté mon premier véhicule" qu'il serait possible de débloquer après avoir obtenu le badge "J'ai eu mon permis de conduire".

Il va sans dire [...] au travers de notre application."

Up to you guys :3

db0company commented 11 years ago

Sounds good.

db0 (Barbara Lepage) http://db0.fr Sent from my Nexus 7 On Jul 31, 2013 11:28 AM, "JW" notifications@github.com wrote:

Well i guess it's better to give examples when you are speaking oraly but, since we are going to send a mail ...

Anyway I can add something like this if you want :

"Pour ce qui est [...] des utilisateurs à leur encontre.

Il serait par exemple intéressant pour un fabricant d'automobiles, de créer un badge au nom de sa compagnie "J'ai acheté mon premier véhicule" qu'il serait possible de débloquer après avoir obtenu le badge "J'ai eu mon permis de conduire".

Il va sans dire [...] au travers de notre application."

Up to you guys :3

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JWepi commented 11 years ago

Sent

db0company commented 11 years ago

I will contact CPDG about this.

JWepi commented 11 years ago

Got it :) Since am in Paris, I can go and meet him if need.

db0company commented 11 years ago

Can you try to contact them again?

JWepi commented 11 years ago

Sure =)

Doing it right now !

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Can you try to contact them again?

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JWepi commented 11 years ago

I contacted them again and even sent a message to them on their website, if we don't get any answer this week, i'll call them or even go and see them :)

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM, David Lassagne david.lassagne@gmail.comwrote:

Sure =)

Doing it right now !

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db0company commented 11 years ago

I know a guy who works there. I'm going to visit the office tomorrow. The price might be 800 € / month for 4 developers. It's not very far away from epitech, we will be surrounded by good developers and startup, get good advice from experienced people and it's pretty cheap. Also, they don't want any equity or anything else.

db0 (Barbara Lepage) http://db0.fr Sent from my Nexus 7 On Sep 8, 2013 7:19 AM, "JW" notifications@github.com wrote:

I contacted them again and even sent a message to them on their website, if we don't get any answer this week, i'll call them or even go and see them :)

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM, David Lassagne david.lassagne@gmail.comwrote:

Sure =)

Doing it right now !

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Can you try to contact them again?

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JWepi commented 11 years ago

Just got an answer \o/ :

Bonjour David, Tu fais bien de me relancer, Laurent m'a parlé de ton projet Myriam va prendre contact avec toi pour organiser une rencontre avec toi et ton équipe bonne rentrée yann gozlan, président créative valley

I'll keep you in touch ;)

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:01 PM, db0 notifications@github.com wrote:

I know a guy who works there. I'm going to visit the office tomorrow. The price might be 800 € / month for 4 developers. It's not very far away from epitech, we will be surrounded by good developers and startup, get good advice from experienced people and it's pretty cheap. Also, they don't want any equity or anything else.

db0 (Barbara Lepage) http://db0.fr Sent from my Nexus 7 On Sep 8, 2013 7:19 AM, "JW" notifications@github.com wrote:

I contacted them again and even sent a message to them on their website, if we don't get any answer this week, i'll call them or even go and see them :)

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM, David Lassagne david.lassagne@gmail.comwrote:

Sure =)

Doing it right now !

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM, db0 notifications@github.com wrote:

Can you try to contact them again?

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https://github.com/Life-the-game/Business/issues/24#issuecomment-24019805>

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have a meeting soon with the business team of the project to clarify it.