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Ah! Interesting. I've changed how I do this one a couple of times, so it's definitely worth some discussion.
First, \autocap
is working… The title in the above example ends with a question mark, which causes biblatex's punctuation tracking to capitalise the next paper, since it thinks a new sentence is starting. This is probably a pretty rare occurrence outside of this particular example, although it may crop up elsewhere. Let's think about the best way to do this entry type before thinking about that problem.
Initially I was using @inproceedings
for this type, and I did have “paper presented at” in the driver. But then I switch to @unpublished
because it seemed like @inproceedings
was meant to be for published conference proceedings, whereas §6.3.8 seems to be an unpublished paper. Are my assumptions correct?
I also did use the note
field because of flexibility. I might be mistaken, but it seems to me hard to predict how the eventtitle
should relate to "paper presented at the" and organization
(joining words might not be consistent…).
There are (at least) two potential useful options.
@conferencepaper
entrytype
entrysubtype
for @unpublished
entriesHere's a few options. What do you like? Option 2.c gives the nicest database entry, but the least flexibilty. Option 2.b might be the best compromise. All of the new options will solve your case problem above.
@unpublished{schrader:2015,
author = {Schrader, Elizabeth},
title = {Was Martha of Bethany added to the Fourth Gospel in the Second Century?},
note = {\autocap{p}aper presented at the Annual Meeting of the Society of Biblical Literature},
location = {Atlanta},
date = {2015/11/23}
}
@conferencepaper
main entrytype
@conferencepaper{schrader:2015,
author = {Schrader, Elizabeth},
title = {Was Martha of Bethany added to the Fourth Gospel in the Second Century?},
eventtitle = {the Annual Meeting of the Society of Biblical Literature},
venue = {Atlanta},
eventdate = {2015/11/23}
}
Driver would need something like:
\printtext{paper presented at}%
\setunit{\space}%
\printfield{eventtitle}%
\newunit
\printfield{venue}%
\newunit
\printfield{eventdate}%
@conferencepaper{schrader:2015,
author = {Schrader, Elizabeth},
title = {Was Martha of Bethany added to the Fourth Gospel in the Second Century?},
eventtitle = {the Annual Meeting of},
organization = {the Society of Biblical Literature},
venue = {Atlanta},
eventdate = {2015/11/23}
}
Driver would need somethig like:
\printtext{paper presented at}%
\setunit{\space}%
\printfield{eventtitle}%
\setunit{\space}%
\printfield{organization}%
\newunit
\printfield{venue}%
\newunit
\printfield{eventdate}%
@conferencepaper{schrader:2015,
author = {Schrader, Elizabeth},
title = {Was Martha of Bethany added to the Fourth Gospel in the Second Century?},
eventtitle = {Annual Meeting},
organization = {Society of Biblical Literature},
venue = {Atlanta},
eventdate = {2015/11/23}
}
Driver would need something like:
\printtext{paper presented at the}%
\setunit{\space}%
\printfield{eventtitle}%
\setunit{\space}%
\printtext{of the}%
\setunit{\space}%
\printfield{organization}%
\newunit
\printfield{venue}%
\newunit
\printfield{eventdate}%
@unpublished
with a conferencepaper entrysubtype
Repeat previous three options, but use entrysubtype
to create a special kind of unpublished entry.
Yeah my understanding of @inproceedings
is that it is for published proceedings. There really isn't a good native field for a conference paper
For most uses 2c is my personal preference. But I do realize that there are other kinds of conferences that could cause issues:
John Smith, “What's in a Name?” (Paper presented at the Layman Scholars Conference of the Prestigious University, Chicago, 23 November 2015).
@conferencepaper{smith:2015,%
author = {Smith, John},
title = {What's in a Name?},
eventtitle = {Layman Scholars Conference},
organization = {Prestigious University},
venue = {Chicago},
eventdate = {2015/11/23}
}
“Of the” could work, but maybe “at the Prestigious University” or something else would be more appropriate.
Do you have any other possible examples of events, being “academic enough” for citation, that might have issues with type 2c?
Hmm - I only have an MDiv, so I'm not qualified to comment on what kind of conferences there are ;).
I could make the "of the" printing dependent on the presence of an organization
field. So if you wanted something else, you could just put everything in eventtitle
.
@conferencepaper{smith:2015,
author = {Smith, John},
title = {What's in a Name?},
eventtitle = {Layman Scholars Conference at the Prestigious University},
venue = {Chicago},
eventdate = {2015/11/23}
}
You're further along than me ;D
And that solution seems reasonable. Also if you added support for institution
you could differentiate between the two. From biblatex.pdf
organization
— “the organization(s) that published a @manual
or an @online
resource, or spon-
sored a conference.”institution
— “The name of a university or some other institution, depending on the entry type.”ok. I'll implement this. I won't do institution
for the moment. I think it might end up being a little unintuitive to have joining words randomly with the use of a different field.
I am doing a PhD, but know far less LaTeX than both of you. For me the only thing I use is SBL conference papers. By looking at the descriptive side of the entry, inproceedings
was not only a wrong entry type, but mainly non-intuitive. Unpublished
is also not right, because it may refer to a non-published book, not a conference paper. So conferencepaper
is the best option, you can't go wrong. Having said that, I would go for 2A for the simple reason that there is only one kind of entry used for both annual and regionsal SBL meetings.
On reflection, I'm inclined to agree with @Nhapsie on this one. Have a look at the latest dev branch and see the test document for usage. It works correctly with your example.
Good, I remember there’s also SBL International Meetings, but it uses the same format.
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fixed in v0.7
Capitalization
Footnote should be lowercase (below is wrong)
Bibliography should be capitalized (below is correct)
I'm guessing the
\autocap
case tracking isn't working just yet.Regarding
note
I assume you're leaving this “as is” for flexibility purposes with
misc
. An alternative I've tried before is writing “paper presented at the” into the .cbx/.bbx files and create separate fields foreventtitle
andorganization
(see BibLaTeX documentation).The question is, I guess, whether “Paper at a Conference” is significant enough to have its own rules apart from
unpublished
ormisc
. Personally I use this all the time but have rarely needed a genericunpublished
category. What do others think?