The Full History of a Translated Volume (6.2.5)

[Nhapsie]

There are complications when editors are added to this reference type. The abbreviation for "editors" should be "eds" and not "ed". Also, the title is replaced by the editors when compiled.

[dcpurton]

I need a full MWE example for this as I'm not sure exactly where you are adding in editors. (Actually, it's always best to include a MWE for bug reports even if you think it's obvious.)

Guess: If you are seeing

Author, Title, ed. First Editor and Second Editor (Location: Publisher, Year).

then this is correct. In this case, ed. is short for edited by (as seen in the bibliography) , not editors.

See 6.2.12 for an example.

[Nhapsie]

I think you're right about the abbreviation for editors in the footnote, as ed. My MWE continues to mix the order of editors with title of work. (Paris does not show up)

\listfiles
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[style=sbl]{biblatex}
\addbibresource{Untitled.bib}
\begin{document}
\cite[91--95]{Saussure2009}.
\printbiblist{abbreviations}
\printbibliography
\end{document}

@book{Saussure1916,
author = {de Saussure, Ferdinand},
editor = {Bally, Charles and Sechehaye, Albert},
title = {Cours de Linguistique Générale},
location = {Lausanne and Paris},
date = {1916},}

@book{Saussure2009,
author = {de Saussure, Ferdinand},
editor = {Bally, Charles and Sechehaye, Albert},
title = {Course in General Liguistics},
translator = {Harris, Roy},
location = {Peru, Illinois},
publisher = {Open Court},
related = {Saussure1916},
relatedtype = {translationof},
date = {2009},}

[dcpurton]

You need to include relatedoptions = {skipbib,useeditor=false} in Saussure2009. What happens is that the author is dropped in the related entry because it's the same as the primary author. But then the editor becomes primary and so is moved ahead of the title.

I think I can probably make this happen automatically, because it is a bit unexpected.

For the moment, here's a MWE with the editor in the right place:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[style=sbl]{biblatex}
\usepackage{filecontents}
\begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}
@book{Saussure1916,
  author = {de Saussure, Ferdinand},
  editor = {Bally, Charles and Sechehaye, Albert},
  title = {Cours de Linguistique Générale},
  location = {Lausanne and Paris},
  date = {1916}
}
@book{Saussure2009,
  author = {de Saussure, Ferdinand},
  editor = {Bally, Charles and Sechehaye, Albert},
  title = {Course in General Liguistics},
  translator = {Harris, Roy},
  location = {Peru, Illinois},
  publisher = {Open Court},
  related = {Saussure1916},
  relatedtype = {translationof},
  relatedoptions = {skipbib,useeditor=false},
  date = {2009}
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\pagestyle{empty}
\begin{document}
\cite[91-95]{Saussure2009}.
\printbiblist{abbreviations}
\printbibliography
\end{document}

[dcpurton]

Paris ought to show up... That's weird. I'll look into that one further.

[dcpurton]

Oh! I remember why multiple locations don't show up.

According to §6.1.4.2 Place of Publication:

If the title or copyright page lists more than one city, only the first city should ordinarily be used in the bibliography and notes (see CMS §14.135).

When you have multiple publishers and locations, the format is:

Location1: Publisher1; Location2: Publisher2

Since the handbook states you don't need to specify multiple locations for a single publisher, you can have as many publishers as you want:

Publisher1; Publisher2; Publisher3; …

But Locations must be matched with a publisher (unless no publisher listed, but still only the first location will be printed).

I did this because if you have (say) 2 publishers and 3 locations in your bib entry, it's not possible for the style to work out which publisher has the two locations. i.e., is it meant to be:

1. Location1 and Location 2: Publisher 1; Location 3: Publisher 2 or
2. Location1: Publisher 2; Location 2 and Location 3: Publisher 2

Given this, if you want to override the style and have two (or more) locations printed, then the right way to do it is to treat them as a single location in your bib entry.

You do this by specifying location = {{Lausanne and Paris}}

[dcpurton]

This is not to say that there isn't a better way of doing this, of course. Open to suggestions.

[Nhapsie]

1. relatedoptions = {skipbib,useeditor=false} in Saussure2009 worked well. In my long project it did not, but that's not a problem because I deleted the editors of Saussure1916 since it's redundant. Thanks for the nice MWE.
2. Yes, I remember now. biblatex-sbl continues to behave correctly even when we forget things. Thx for the hint about {{Lausanne and Paris}}.