Closed Tinchus2009 closed 3 years ago
this looks exactly like the thing i fixed with #1411. I am going to verify it
@Tinchus2009 can you provide the correct save file for this one: camp1.liberation
. The one you attached can not be loaded at all
campana1.zip Here you have. Chande fro .rar. zip extension
readin about #1411, then seems to be related because ths mission probably would have ended with a WIN on my side, because I guess one the flight acomplish to destroy the last runaway of the enemy
campana1.zip Here you have. Chande fro .rar. zip extension
again i can not open this one as its invalid for DCS LIberation V4- This looks like an V3 save file which is not compatible to the V4 at all. So i can say your error above was not generated with this campaign you attached.
I dont know what to say. I dont have liberation V3 installed. Im using the V4.0.0 acording to what I read in the cmd screen when I start it. And on top of the windows it also says: DCS Liberation - V4.0.0
Still, y hae tried another campaign, and the same problem arises. Follow the reproduction steps I posted above, I have been able to reproduce that error choosing every campaign I tried (I confess I tried with on 4 different ones)
I also cannot load that save in either 4.0.0 or the latest 4.x preview build. It complains about the M1A2, and I'm wondering what faction file is being used?
@Tinchus2009 Since no one else is able to run your saved games in 4.x for some reason, can you try with https://github.com/dcs-liberation/dcs_liberation/actions/runs/1085947977?
No response. Nothing we can do without feedback. Closing until we get the info we need.
Before filing, please search the issue tracker to see if the issue has already been reported.
If reporting a DCS AI bug, check https://github.com/dcs-liberation/dcs_liberation#dcs-bugs.
Describe the bug I finished a mission, inmediatly I panned the next on and it just wont start. I saved the mission, closed DCS closed liberation. Restarted DCS, then started liberation and still wont start the new mission. I see the same errors :
2021-07-22 20:50:17,897 :: INFO :: DCS Liberation 4.0.0 2021-07-22 20:50:17,897 :: DEBUG :: Python version 3.9.5 (tags/v3.9.5:0a7dcbd, May 3 2021, 17:27:52) [MSC v.1928 64 bit (AMD64)] 2021-07-22 20:50:18,078 :: ERROR :: Using default theme because liberation_theme.json does not exist 2021-07-22 20:50:18,078 :: INFO :: Loading stylesheet: style-dcs.css 2021-07-22 20:50:18,079 :: DEBUG :: Loading Liberation preferences from C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\DCSLiberation\liberation_preferences.json 2021-07-22 20:50:18,079 :: INFO :: Using C:\Users\User\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta as 'Saved Game Folder' 2021-07-22 20:50:18,079 :: INFO :: Using D:/Eagle Dynamics/DCS World OpenBeta as 'DCS installation folder' C:/Users/User/Saved Games/DCS.openbeta/Liberation/Saves/camp1.liberation 2021-07-22 20:50:20,318 :: INFO :: Loading last saved game : C:/Users/User/Saved Games/DCS.openbeta/Liberation/Saves/camp1.liberation 2021-07-22 20:50:20,331 :: WARNING :: No data for Ka-27; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,335 :: WARNING :: No data for SH-3W; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,369 :: WARNING :: No data for F/A-18A; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,369 :: WARNING :: No data for F/A-18C; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,369 :: WARNING :: No data for F-14A; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,386 :: WARNING :: No data for Su-25TM; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,451 :: WARNING :: No data for F-16C bl.50; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,451 :: WARNING :: No data for F-16C bl.52d; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,452 :: WARNING :: No data for F-16A MLU; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,512 :: WARNING :: No data for C-101EB; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,522 :: WARNING :: No data for Christen Eagle II; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,526 :: WARNING :: No data for F-5E; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,544 :: WARNING :: No data for Hawk; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,546 :: WARNING :: No data for L-39C; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,566 :: WARNING :: No data for Yak-52; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,571 :: WARNING :: No data for TF-51D; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:20,807 :: INFO :: Reading plugins list from resources\plugins\plugins.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,812 :: INFO :: Loading plugin base from resources\plugins\base\plugin.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,813 :: INFO :: Loading plugin jtacautolase from resources\plugins\jtacautolase\plugin.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,815 :: INFO :: Loading plugin skynetiads from resources\plugins\skynetiads\plugin.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,816 :: INFO :: Loading plugin ewrs from resources\plugins\ewrs\plugin.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,817 :: INFO :: Loading plugin herculescargo from resources\plugins\herculescargo\plugin.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,818 :: INFO :: Loading plugin splashdamage from resources\plugins\splashdamage\plugin.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,821 :: INFO :: Loading plugin lotatc from resources\plugins\lotatc\plugin.json 2021-07-22 20:50:20,875 :: DEBUG :: Looking for locale
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it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,006 :: WARNING :: No data for Tigr_233036; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,008 :: WARNING :: No data for Trolley bus; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,010 :: WARNING :: No data for Ural ATsP-6; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,012 :: WARNING :: No data for Ural-375 PBU; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,013 :: WARNING :: No data for VAZ Car; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,013 :: WARNING :: No data for ZiL-131 APA-80; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,013 :: WARNING :: No data for SKP-11; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,014 :: WARNING :: No data for ZIL-131 KUNG; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,014 :: WARNING :: No data for ZIL-4331; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,015 :: WARNING :: No data for KrAZ6322; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,015 :: WARNING :: No data for Electric locomotive; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,015 :: WARNING :: No data for Locomotive; 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it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,117 :: WARNING :: No data for FuSe-65; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,148 :: WARNING :: No data for DR_50Ton_Flat_Wagon; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,148 :: WARNING :: No data for DRG_Class_86; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,149 :: WARNING :: No data for German_covered_wagon_G10; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,152 :: WARNING :: No data for German_tank_wagon; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,152 :: WARNING :: No data for FieldHL; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,153 :: WARNING :: No data for HARRIERH; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,153 :: WARNING :: No data for SMOKESAM; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,154 :: WARNING :: No data for SmokeD1; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,154 :: WARNING :: No data for SmokeD3; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,178 :: WARNING :: No data for SHERIDAN; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,190 :: WARNING :: No data for T62; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,191 :: WARNING :: No data for T64BV; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,192 :: WARNING :: No data for T72M; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,193 :: WARNING :: No data for KORNET; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,218 :: WARNING :: No data for S_75M_Volhov_V759; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,218 :: WARNING :: No data for HQ_2_Guideline_LN; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,219 :: WARNING :: No data for 5p73 V-601P ln; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,221 :: WARNING :: No data for SA-24 Igla-S manpad; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,225 :: WARNING :: No data for SA-14 Strela-3 manpad; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,225 :: WARNING :: No data for polyana-d4m1 cp; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:22,226 :: WARNING :: No data for 34Ya6E Gazetchik E decoy; it will not be available 2021-07-22 20:50:27,793 :: INFO :: Generating AirWar (regular) 2021-07-22 20:50:27,801 :: WARNING :: Found empty group in Early Warning Radar 2021-07-22 20:50:27,807 :: WARNING :: Found empty group in Early Warning Radar Traceback (most recent call last): File "widgets\QTopPanel.py", line 279, in launch_mission File "game\game.py", line 276, in initiate_event File "game\event\event.py", line 65, in generate File "game\operation\operation.py", line 297, in generate File "game\operation\operation.py", line 417, in _generate_transports File "gen\convoygen.py", line 31, in generate File "gen\convoygen.py", line 34, in generate_convoy File "gen\convoygen.py", line 63, in _create_mixed_unit_group File "dcs\mission.py", line 690, in vehicle_group IndexError: list index out of range 2021-07-22 20:52:36,010 :: WARNING :: ewr not in REWARDS 2021-07-22 20:52:39,441 :: WARNING :: ewr not in REWARDS 2021-07-22 20:52:42,093 :: WARNING :: ewr not in REWARDS 2021-07-22 20:52:45,620 :: WARNING :: ewr not in REWARDS 2021-07-22 20:52:53,204 :: WARNING :: ewr not in REWARDSTo Reproduce Steps to reproduce the behavior:
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