how much is "Password & Account" related to "Profile"?

[r10s]

all of android/ios/desktop already have roughly the same ordering in the settings and the same clickpaths, that's great - and already much better than things i've seen on other multi-platform apps ❤️

the main difference is that that "Password & Account" are inside the "Profile" on android/ios where on desktop related to the "Profile" visually

but that relation was maybe more a copy thingie in the past, iirc, it was never really thought much about it :)

so questions that that pop up before we can proceed on improvements and unify [^1] [^2]

1. is "Password and Account" really related to "Profile"?

2. assuming a user using the upcoming instant-account: how important is "Password and Account" really? is it worth a top-position?

once we've better ideas about that, we can think about how to unify

[^1]: there are ideas on android and ideas on ios to move "Password & Account" out of profile as well, and there is a PR on desktop to improve layout

[^2]: there are obviously some side questions, but let's focus on that

[Simon-Laux]

I'd say if not top level, then it should be inside of advanced to be closer to the other imap settings. But even for instant account is is an important item, because it is used to initiate AEAP and that's also an important part of the instant account effort: that you can migrate away from our server.

[Raiden-GH]

Compared to other messengers, the settings in DC are relatively compact. Everything fits on one screen and scrolling is not necessary. A new user can directly see all areas of the settings. In my opinion, it would make little sense to place particularly frequently used settings higher up and less frequently used ones lower down, as all areas are easily accessible. So I would try to put them in a "logical" order. This is of course very subjective.

The most basic areas are those relating to the account and the associated profile. I would put these at the top of the list.

• Profile

• Account and Password (swapped Password an Account so they are in an alphabetically order)

• Add Second Device

• Connectivity

The next logically connected area contains all settings regarding chats.

• Chats and Media

• Notifications

• Wallpaper

The advanced settings are a separate area that only contains settings that most users do not need because they are experimental or the default ones make sense for most people.

Then there is the help section. Strictly speaking this isn't a setting, but I don't know where else it could be placed in DC-iOS. In DC-Android it would fit well in the kebab menu.

-> Profile

-> Account and Password

-> Add Second Device

-> Connectivity

-> Chats and Media

-> Notifications

-> Wallpaper

-> Advanced

-> (Help)

[r10s]

@raiden-social thanks for the well thought-out and conclusive suggestion!

[r10s]

I'd say if not top level, then it should be inside of advanced to be closer to the other imap settings.

+1

we decided to move "password & account" to "advanced", thanks all for comments and thoughts!

AEAP is a point, however, that is not that bullet proof to be a recommended workflow yet - and if it becomes one, we'll probably make it more user frienly

see https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-android/pull/3019 for further details