Information on ONL fork should be improved

buczek commented 3 years ago

There currently is not much information about

why a fork from ONL was required
where the vision of dentOS is different from that of ONL.
whether and how development in either project will go to the other

sonoble commented 3 years ago

dentOS is not really a fork of ONL, it's a switchdev based nos that uses ONL as the platform operating system. dentOS supports significantly less platforms, based on their ability to use switchdev (along with a few dev platforms). We have tried to upstream to ONL but it has been unsuccessful.

buczek commented 3 years ago

Technically it can be called a fork with 3035 common commits (latest is 21019821 ("Add missing autobuild option for Buster") and 38 unique commits in dentOS and 113 unique commits in ONL since then. I understand that you regard dentOS a being an NOS build on top of the ONL platform. But what is dentOS planning to provide on top of ONL to make it into a NOS. Userspace tools?

If I understand correctly and speculate a bit (a lot) the answers could be along this line:

why a fork was required: Because ONL rejected proposed contributions ( Do you happen to have a reference like a rejected or ignored pull request in opencomputeproject/OpenNetworkLinux.git ? )
where the vision of dentOS is different from that of ONL: dentOS plans to add userspace tools (?) , dentOS want's to limit itself to switchdev based platforms (?), dentOS wants to remove non-switchdev drivers (?), dentOS want to update more frequently (?)
whether and how development in either project will go to the other: no plan currently.

Thank you very much for the answer, @sonoble. I'm personally interested and I'm happy to get more infornation in this PRs thread. My proposal, however, is, that the information is made visible (e.g. in the projects README.md or referenced from there).

sonoble commented 3 years ago

It appears the ONL project has been removed from OCP, we are following up to see what actions are being taken and what we can do to assist.

buczek commented 3 years ago

Maybe the question, what DentOS wants to be, can currently just be answered with the rather abstract phrase from the technical charter: "A full featured network operating system and control plane that is natively supported by Linux" 1. And the Technical Charter is just two clicks from the README.md. So if more detailed design issues are still work in progress, that might be all that can be said now. If so, feel free to close the issue.

paulmenzel commented 3 years ago

It appears the ONL project has been removed from OCP, we are following up to see what actions are being taken and what we can do to assist.

Were you able to get more details?

sonoble commented 3 years ago

Yes,

OCP is working with Arista to get all of the IP and rights transferred to OCP. Once that is completed we will be able to manage ONL and get the pull requests reviewed and merged.

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q2dg commented 1 year ago

Well... see this: https://github.com/opencomputeproject/OpenNetworkLinux/commit/38d4baa8c75e9cd154aaf707eb6e86cb9396b5a2

Maybe the tail " ...built on top of Open Network Linux" could be dropped from Dent's Github's Readme in order to no confuse people.

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Information on ONL fork should be improved #61