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@wesrowe Just wanted to follow up from our call yesterday. We can work the IA and content work into this sprint, with the goal of completion by 2/1. We'll do our best to provide content feedback as we have it so you can be incorporating it into the designs as we go. Mikki will follow up on additional IA thoughts and I know you've set up a call with her.
One thing to confirm now: We do want to include a wayfinding task in the research plan to help understand how people would navigate to this tool.
@cindymerrill, FYI, see Randi's note above about a wayfinding task
@wesrowe Thanks for tagging me :). @RLHecht I'm happy to include a wayfinding task in the user research, but I thought that @DanielleThierryUSDSVA said to not bother navigating from the VA.gov home page because how you get here is in the process of changing. Where do you recommend starting from? I believe we discussed starting at the Cost of Care page. Is there somewhere else that you have in mind?
Thanks for following up to clarify, @cindymerrill! I had said that I wondered about the navigation task since we're doing a bunch of testing on navigation that will likely change the health hub a lot, but that I wanted to talk with @mnorthuis because that's her IA area of expertise/responsibility. She noted that a wayfinding task should be part of every usability test so the note above reflects our combined follow up.
Hi @cindymerrill, as part of launching anything new on the site, we always want to include a findability task in research. That task can be framed up in whatever way works best for your research - it doesn't have to require the participant to start on the home page, they could start on an open browser tab, or another relevant starting point. The goal is to learn what words do people use to describe or label the tool, and where do they look for or expect to find the new feature. What we want to avoid, is placing them on the new tool with headings, breadcrumbs, and language already exposed. Doing this as part of a task, also provides an opportunity to watch a visitor flow through the entire experience. The governance team also looks for this task to be included as part of midpoint.
Thanks for clarifying, @DanielleThierryUSDSVA ! @mnorthuis I'm totally with you on the value of including a findability task. I was wondering where you think might be an appropriate place to start participants from. Somewhere before the Cost of Care page? The home page? By "an open browser tab", do you mean that they could proceed at first however they want--e.g., go to VA.gov, search in google?
@cindymerrill I don't know what the rest of your research looks like, so I don't want to prescribe what will work best, and I haven't had time to dig into this specific tool to understand what it even is. Some have found it easiest to start participants on an open browser tab and let them freely go, others have found it best to start on va.gov home. The benefit of starting at the home page is the task is focused on va.gov and avoids the wild west of google :-) .
@mnorthuis The problem with starting on the VA.gov home page is that it may be the old version of the page that's being replaced, and I'd prefer to see people interact with the new one, if it's on Production. Seems like letting people go where they want to (including google) will give us a sense for what words/phrases that Veterans come up with for this topic.
The home page redesign is a variable we can't control, just like there are other redesign efforts across the site that could eventually impact things. In the end we want to know where would they expect to find it on VA.gov, and what words do they use to describe or label it.
Hey @wesrowe and @thejordanwood -- we are still finalizing the H1 with content (and thus the url, link labels, and breadcrumb), but wanted to send you what we had finalized:
Let us know if you have any questions or need anything else for your testing next week.
@kristinoletmuskat Are you asking us to add an additional page to our income limits app? My understanding was that this app wouldn't screen out anyone based on income or anything else (i.e., 50% or greater service-connected disability) but will show the income limits that apply based on answers given by the user for their location, number of dependents, and whether/not they have Aid and Attendance or Housebound benefits. We don't ask people for their income and so can't screen people out based on that. Perhaps you're showing us the work flow that happens before users reach our income limits app?
Also, we're not testing next week but instead incorporating IA and Content feedback into the prototype so we can show it to Dave Conlon and have a Midpoint Review.
@wesrowe @thejordanwood
Thanks for the update Cindy -- I think what we're proposing is that if a user's income falls above that last $90k threshhold in the prototype, that there is some content for them.
Maybe something saying that they might still qualify for free healthcare pending disability % or those other factors you mention, or if they def don't qualify, maybe some content that links them to healthcare.gov or other resources for finding healthcare.
Based on our current understanding of the flow (which we might have misunderstood, so pls let me know), it seems like the current prototype has a 'dead end' for the folks whose income falls above the listed thresholds. Does that make sense?
@kristinoletmuskat, that makes complete sense. Can @thejordanwood expect content for that new section from your team?
@kristinoletmuskat Thank you for clarifying what you were thinking! Sounds like it could fit nicely into @thejordanwood 's results page.
@wesrowe I think content will come from @aliyahblackmore on that!
Morning all. Happy Monday!
Yes, I included some suggestions, for the above $90k threshold, in my review of content.
My content suggestions for all of the screens are still with Danielle - she is doing her review!
@wesrowe @kristinoletmuskat (FYSA @DanielleThierryUSDSVA)
@wesrowe @thejordanwood @cindymerrill You should have what you need from an IA perspective for the purposes of research - the placement of this tool within the IA dictates the breadcrumb you should include in your test. Please note that the "Your health care costs" page and this tool have different breadcrumbs because they will live in different places in the IA but link to each other in content. We look forward to hearing results of your research, and then can refine and finalize the IA and the resulting URL for the tool, so please loop back around when that's complete. Thanks!
@mnorthuis Am I correct in understanding that all the breadcrumbs in our app/tool should be identical? @thejordanwood I think it should be "Your health care costs" (plural) to match the page header, rather than "Your health care cost" (singular) that I see in your current design. @mnorthuis I'll certainly include you and the Content team in my research readout. Do you have any specific questions that you're looking for data on?
@cindymerrill I think we're interested in how the user navigates to this tool -- are they finding it from the costs of care and eligibility pages as we expect, or do we need to add the link to the tool somewhere else we aren't thinking?
Who from Sitewide Content and IA is interested in observing some of the research sessions? I will be sharing a spreadsheet with anyone interested that shows all the sessions, and you can sign up for the session(s) you want to observe. (I'm doing this because I need to limit the number of observers in each session.)
Hi @cindymerrill - I'd be happy to observe some of the research sessions!
Jenny and I would love to observe too!
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Thank you, @kristinoletmuskat !
@aliyahblackmore, checking in about @DanielleThierryUSDSVA's review of the prototype copy – we're waiting anxiously, as it will unlock our critical path. Any updates?
Hi @wesrowe. We'll deliver the content recommendations on Feb 1 as promised. Thanks.
Hi @wesrowe. Here's a link to the content doc. Let me know if you and the team want to talk through the questions and notes. Happy to jump on a call. Thanks.
THANK YOU so much for your detailed feedback, @DanielleThierryUSDSVA and @aliyahblackmore ! With your super helpful revisions, I'll be excited to show the prototype to research participants :).
I've responded to some of your questions in the comments and added a few of my own. I'll be discussing all the feedback with @wesrowe later today, and we may want to follow up with you more after that.
You're very welcome, @cindymerrill! Definitely feel free to follow up and let me know if a call would be helpful.
@wesrowe I think there's also one big open question around priority group 8. It was mentioned that priority group 8 no longer existed. But it looks like the prototype still has the use case that is equal to priority group 8 (VA health care with full copays). And we've had VHA SMEs review related pages multiple times recently and no one has said to remove priority group 8 info. So I want to just check in on that before I follow up with our SMEs in the VHA financial revenue office so we can make sure we have the latest, most accurate info across all content. If you have any additional info on that, let us know! Thanks.
I second what Cindy said – this is really great work we get to lean on. I learned a ton from the copy and comments.
@DanielleThierryUSDSVA, re PG 8 – I am almost certain that nothing has changed and the existing content around PG8 is correct. I have a challenge that I'm trying to work through, in that I don't have a SME on speed dial who knows everything about income limits and eligibility. I've found one person who knows a lot, Lindsey Peace, but her day job is focused on evaluating income limits for only certain categories of Veterans. She is the person who I might have paraphrased as saying "PG 8 isn't a real thing," but also she freely acknowledges the boundaries of her expertise. It might also have been one of the tech/data-side folks on VistA.
So I have taken on a ticket in this sprint to identify VA SMEs/stakeholders who are knowledgeable enough to sign off on the Income Limits app as a whole, what questions it asks, and the results it yields for specific cases. I'd love your help with that! Add a name here, or I'll reach out to you in that other ticket.
Thanks, @wesrowe! I would be more than happy to help find the right SMEs for this. I have some folks we can start with and can send an introductory email to connect you.
Hi @wesrowe. I'm going to be traveling/leading some long meetings next week, so I wanted to document some thoughts and questions that are coming up for me based on the email thread with SMEs.
Priority Group 4
SMEs seem to be saying that the A&A and Housebound income thresholds don't matter. I think this maps to the question we'd raised in the content doc about the Veterans pension (which also shows in the original tool as "pension threshold" but not in the new prototype).
Based on previously approved content, this has been my understanding of affected Veterans: If you get A&A or Housebound benefits, you get placed into Priority Group 4 automatically, regardless of your income. But your income level (and other factors) can still affect whether you'll pay copays for some types of care.
So the questions there for me are:
Priority Group 5
My understanding is that you could get placed into PG 5 based on income limits or if you receive VA pension benefits or if you're eligible for Medicaid programs. But again, your income level can then impact your copays.
So the questions there for me are:
We recently received a PDF of copay requirements to audit against the previously approved copay rates information to make sure everything matches up. From my very brief review, I definitely have questions. I think before we go any further with this income limits tool, we need to get the right SMEs in the room to make sure that we have a thorough understanding of how exactly income affects copays within each priority group.
I'm sure I'll have more questions as we go, but wanted to capture these now. Thanks!
Hello! From the IA side we were able to put out our recs (in the IA Design Specs Doc for where this tool will live based on ya'lls updates and getting the H1 from content.
Let us know if you have any questions.
For when we resume working on the income limits app again, I added two new questions into the Word doc for Content to answer:
@DanielleThierryUSDSVA @RLHecht, in Midpoint Review for Income Limits we got content feedback about the "feeder" pages that are already in prod – Cost of Care and Priority Groups. So I'm passing that along here in case you want to address it. It seems to me to be small style changes, and it's very clear. Here's the ticket.
IA topic – so I think @kristinoletmuskat? I was just going over your original IA design. Having a lot more context now, I have questions that wouldn't have occurred to me earlier. Would this be a good place to discuss?
What I'm seeing in designs is that "Income limits" would be a link in menu-like link lists. Is the intention here? If so, I think we need to consider whether that proposed placement in the IA may make it too easy for Veterans to find the Income Limits app itself.
VHA SMEs as well as @DanielleThierryUSDSVA are concerned about the potential for the Income Limits tool to accidentally discourage Veterans from applying for benefits they would automatically qualify for – e.g., a Veteran with 50% disability rating. We have been discussing internally that we want Veterans to link from content that makes it clear that income limits might not apply to them at all. If Veterans might find the tool more easily, i.e., from a menu, we might consider adding stronger content on the tool's first page indicating "this may not apply to you for these reasons..."
Don't worry @thejordanwood @cindymerrill, this would be post-research.
@wesrowe that makes sense to me! Just to confirm, we're talking about the placement of the income limits tool in these screenshots below right? The health hub page and the left nav.
I think regardless of whether we decide to keep the tool in the hub or left nav, it might make sense to add stronger content to the beginning of the tool. A user might click the link after just scanning the content, or with an incomplete understanding of who the tool is for, and having that second 'this may not apply to you' could be helpful.
And I see your point about making it too easy to find -- it makes sense to me. I'm going to tap @mnorthuis just to confirm there's not something I'm aware of that would prevent that. Mikki, do you think we could remove the link from the hub page and left nav? What downsides are we not considering?
@wesrowe We can remove it from the hub page, that is a manually maintained list of links deemed most important to the hub. However, the secondary nav (side nav/in this section component) should contain a link to all content within the section. The only time we do not show an item in the left nav, is if we are hiding it from search engines as well (noindex)- which we rarely do- and is not the case here. Even if we were to take it out of left nav, it is still searchable and directly accessible, so that would not resolve the issue.
Thanks for the discussion and clarification! @DanielleThierryUSDSVA, we can discuss this further after research and as we finalize design and content for release.
Hi @DanielleThierryUSDSVA @RLHecht - I want to give you the heads-up that there will definitely be a need for content changes in the Income Limits app based on the user research sessions. Cindy concluded user research on Wednesday and is working on synthesis during this sprint.
@RLHecht @aliyahblackmore As promised, here is my Income Limits research report with all the findings and recommendations, many of which involve Content or IA: https://github.com/department-of-veterans-affairs/va.gov-team/blob/master/products/income-limits-app/research/2023-01-income-limits-usability/research-findings.md#recommendations
Feel free to reach out to me if you want any clarifications. Note that neither Danielle nor Dave Conlon has seen this version of the report, but I shared an earlier draft with them. FYI @wesrowe @thejordanwood
Woo thanks so much @cindymerrill for sharing these detailed findings on income limits! Here are my comments on the recs that impact flow/IA:
For the app design and functionality
Clarify and sequence the two calls to action on the results page by focusing first on selecting an income range, and second on applying for VA health care. To do this, consider moving the "Note" text ("You'll still need to meet basic eligibility requirements to enroll. To find out if you're eligible, apply now") and the Apply for VA health care link to inside every income accordion, right after the benefits description.
Because Veteran participants didn't realize that they could deduct expenses from their income and didn't open How to estimate your income for this tool on the results page, remove the additional info component and change this into a heading or plain text to make the content below visible without requiring any user interaction. See Content recommendation #9 below.
Consider making the Review the information you entered link into a breadcrumb at the top of the page where it won't separate the instructions and the CTA to select your income range. Maybe check how other VA.gov pages enable you to navigate to the review page. Need to discuss with the Sitewide Content/IA team.
If someone navigates from the Review Info page to another page, the Continue button should take you back to the Review Info page instead of to the next question (which was intended as the design but wasn't implemented in the click-through prototype).
If we want the Get past income limits link to be easier to find, consider moving it up higher on the results page, or possibly add a year selector to the app flow right before asking any questions. Another approach would be to place the link on the intro page under the Get started CTA and instrument it for analytics so we will be able to track its usage in Production.
**- Do we want it to be easier to find? How common is this usecase?
@kristinoletmuskat Thank you for your IA/flow thoughts! I'd like to respond to some of what you wrote...
FYI @wesrowe
Thank you @cindymerrill! I'm gonna need to chat with Mikki about the breadcrumbs and she's out this week at an OCTO offsite. I can get back to you next week with our IA POV on that, but totally understand why you want to try it.
Hey @cindymerrill , I just talked to Mikki and here's what we need to consider re:breadcrumb.
The breadcrumb is a standard component that links to a parent page, and we can't break the standard component by replacing the parent page with the individual workflow pages of the income limits app. Doing that would cause the income limits app to have a diff type of IA than the rest of the forms on VA.gov. Here is more info about how to use the breadcrumb component within the guidelines.
Here's an example from the Disability application -- you can see that regardless of the step in the workflow, the breadcrumbs stay the same "Home> Disability Benefits > File for disability compensation"
However, I understand the problem ya'll are trying to solve, and why changing the breadcrumb seems like a good option! I don't think the initial recommendation will get approved in staging, but here are some other options that come to mind.
Thanks for your reply, @kristinoletmuskat ! I'll need to discuss this with @thejordanwood and @wesrowe .
@thejordanwood @wesrowe Do you want to meet to meet to discuss this?
Hi @wesrowe @jilladams @cindymerrill @thejordanwood.
Adding link to the Word doc with my recommendations and our collaboration notes for reference.
Also wanted to share a working preview of the main entry point page. As I noted in my recommendations, we're going to be rethinking this whole page as part of some broader IA/content strategy work. But in the meantime, it's a very old page that was due for a refresh. I'm going to do a bit more with this, but feel free to take a look if you'd like. And then we'll need a SME to review. Do we want to work with your SMEs for the income limits tool or would you like me to reach out to others in VHA?
@DanielleThierryUSDSVA Your revised Your health care costs page looks a LOT shorter! And it looks like income limits is now only one link: Learn more about your income and VA health care. I like how you moved some of the old long content into question accordions at the bottom.
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