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Di's Plover-theory stenography dictionaries used by Typey Type for Stenographers.
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Issue with strokes for "find*" #103

Closed paulfioravanti closed 4 years ago

paulfioravanti commented 4 years ago

In the current dict.json file, there are the following strokes entries for words starting with "find", all of which are valid in Plover release weekly-v4.0.0.dev8+66.g685bd33:

"TPAOEUPBD": "find",
"TPEUPBD": "find",
"TPAOEUPB/TKER": "finder",
"TPAOEUPBD/*ER": "finder",
"TPAOEURPBD": "finder",
"TPAOEUPBD/ERS": "finders",
"TPAOEPBGD": "finding",
"TPAOEUBD/-G": "finding",
"TPAOEUPBGD": "finding",
"TPAOEUPBD/-GS": "findings",
"TPAOEUPBGDZ": "findings",
"TPHAOEUPBD": "find it",
"TPAOEUPBDZ": "finds",
"TPHAOEUPBD/T-S": "find that it's",

Most of these entries use the stroke AOEU for the "ī" sound in "find", and this would lead me to believe that perhaps entries that shorten that sound, like "TPEUPBD": "find" could be mis-strokes.

Entries that use the shortened "ī" sound (in different ways) for "find" are present in many of the entries in other dictionaries:

https://github.com/didoesdigital/steno-dictionaries/blob/c057ce8e7a1a43e0593f627eb9b43f0d09f79d85/dictionaries/top-10000-project-gutenberg-words.json#L201

https://github.com/didoesdigital/steno-dictionaries/blob/c057ce8e7a1a43e0593f627eb9b43f0d09f79d85/dictionaries/top-10000-project-gutenberg-words.json#L1377

https://github.com/didoesdigital/steno-dictionaries/blob/c057ce8e7a1a43e0593f627eb9b43f0d09f79d85/dictionaries/top-200-words-spoken-on-tv.json#L156

https://github.com/didoesdigital/steno-dictionaries/blob/c057ce8e7a1a43e0593f627eb9b43f0d09f79d85/dictionaries/top-1000-words.json#L201

So, my questions are:

didoesdigital commented 4 years ago

Thanks @paulfioravanti. The entries using the short "i" sound might be considered briefs as well as misstrokes. To make it predictable for beginners learning stenography, it might be worth switching them to the long "i" sound, with a note in the commit message that they can be briefs as well as misstrokes.

paulfioravanti commented 4 years ago

Thanks, @didoesdigital. In that case, I'll put in a PR that leaves dict.json alone as the short "i" sounds are not considered mis-strokes, and just change out the entries in four entries mentioned above.