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Future dff.ooo improvement for FR related section Suggestion / Partial Search? #34

Open GHNeko opened 2 years ago

GHNeko commented 2 years ago

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As it stands you have to go to the drop down to swap from FR weapon to FR effects. A suggestion would be a button or something clickable that automatically swaps between the two (maybe condence FR weapons and Force Time Effects into Force category but I assume you seperated them for a reason.)

Also the search doesnt support partial filters?

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GHNeko commented 2 years ago

The FR weapon aspect doesnt seem to provide much practical use that couldn't be squeezes into a tool tip or a toggle imo but I want to assume there was a design choice behind it so I'm only bringing it up as a suggestion.

remsk commented 2 years ago

Partial search was disabled because it produced unwanted results. I can enable it for a number of keywords but enabling it for all keywords is something I can't recommend.

The weapon views are by design "useless" and only serve as eye candy but they may be improved.

GHNeko commented 2 years ago

Understood. I wouldnt call the weapon views useless since eye candy is great for front end users, but if there is no practicality beyond that then maybe bundling it in with something else would be best for ease of use since without figuring it out, it's not 100% guaranteed to be able to tell what the purpose of FR weapons are for, especially compared to Comp which gives passives for the weapon.

I also figured partial search had a reasoning for it. While writing this response I learned by chance that the search supports keywords such as "Sword" and "FFT" and "Yellow" while using commas to seperate the tags. It doesn't seem to be something that end users will discover naturally so maybe in the interim, add a visual indicator of what is support by the search as well as operators like "," and maybe modifiers such as "-" to filter out groups.

So for example

"FFV", "Green", "-Sword" for a result of only Galuf and Gilgamesh.

As well as some drop downs or text or something to teach users that they exist and how to use them

EDIT: Just figured out that you're using "!" in place of "-" lmao

Yeah a blurb or something that shows the end user the general logic for filtering via keywords would be great. "!" is such a programmer thing to use and most end users would assume "-" due to search engine modifiers setting an end user standard.

EDIT2: The FR weapon section features the partner so maybe clicking on the partner will take you to their cell? As a suggestion for features.

Sorry for the constant edits.

remsk commented 2 years ago

Understood. I wouldnt call the weapon views useless since eye candy is great for front end users, but if there is no practicality beyond that then maybe bundling it in with something else would be best for ease of use since without figuring it out, it's not 100% guaranteed to be able to tell what the purpose of FR weapons are for, especially compared to Comp which gives passives for the weapon.

The weapon views are not meant to give passive information for the time being. They were created to be bundled with future views that would contain such information. Still, as you can see, those views are not out yet, so I can understand your point about them.

I also figured partial search had a reasoning for it. While writing this response I learned by chance that the search supports keywords such as "Sword" and "FFT" and "Yellow" while using commas to seperate the tags. It doesn't seem to be something that end users will discover naturally so maybe in the interim, add a visual indicator of what is support by the search as well as operators like "," and maybe modifiers such as "-" to filter out groups.

EDIT: Just figured out that you're using "!" in place of "-" lmao

Yeah a blurb or something that shows the end user the general logic for filtering via keywords would be great. "!" is such a programmer thing to use and most end users would assume "-" due to search engine modifiers setting an end user standard. it was originally "-" but I needed it for the url's space character to make them prettier. I originally thought to simply convert the - to ! for the url but I was worried users would get confused when they try to build an url on their own.

Your point is sound though. I'll consider reviewing that and changing it to - just for the text box. By the way, the text box is linked to the filter sidebar, but I'm sure you noticed that already

EDIT2: The FR weapon section features the partner so maybe clicking on the partner will take you to their cell? As a suggestion for features.

Why not, let's do that, I was merely not convinced it would be that useful.

GHNeko commented 2 years ago

The weapon views are not meant to give passive information for the time being. They were created to be bundled with future views that would contain such information. Still, as you can see, those views are not out yet, so I can understand your point about them.

To this end, is there any sort of documentation or road map I can refer to to keep in mind to prevent redundancies? Slightly feels like this might be a reoccuring theme so I'd like to prevent you from wasting your breath lmao

remsk commented 2 years ago

No, please keep stating all of your suggestions :'D

I do have a roadmap but it only contains elements that I wish to move from v1 and dissidia.dev to DFF.ooo before the end of the year. It does not have other ideas I plan to implement.