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2 years ago @rhyslbw I'm not sure if you actually have or want to have an opinion on this. But I think you might be the only person I know that sits on the JS-side (or in fact somwhere in between) of the intersection.
I remember our discussion how the nix cache can potentially disintermediate quite some of those novel domain-specific shared cache techniques in JS, such as in nx (as if not only the name was a shameless rip :wink:) and potentially solve some of the (re-)build duration issues, that developers reportedly face (or faced).
All that, while modulo "usability", currently not much is left on the nix side worth exploring in practical terms in a productivity setting.
dzmitry-lahoda
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Standard positions itself a tool for managing monorepos (I think?). Most of my encounters with monorepos have been within the JavaScript ecosystem. Usually these tend to use Yarn, PNPM, Lerna, or some other newer tools (Vercel’s Turborepo also comes to mind, and there's also the very-confusingly-named "Nx"!).
I’ve been looking through some the examples and tutorials but am struggling a bit to find a middle ground between the simple tutorial examples and the complexity of the Bitte/Cardano examples. JS monorepos are more complex than the single-binary Rust example in the template but generally don't need to concern themselves with the complexities of managing hosting / distributed apps infrastructure.
Some notable real-world examples:
And some template examples I've come across:
So, all that is to say, does Standard fit the bill for these types of mega-projects containing smaller projects containing their own packages, components, utility function libraries, etc.? Or am I attempting to plug a square into a circle?
If Standard does fit such applications, in theory, how would Thee Standardisers map the concepts/structures of cells / cell blocks / runnables / data / etc. to one of those existing projects?
Another even more abstract question: how would Standard be applied as a tool for managing a web agency's client+project structures, or the many desks and newsrooms of a large media publication? If we zoom out and spin around, a larger variety of domain-boundaries appear: cells within organisms within hives within colonies within ... planets...
On the Broader Subject of Standard as Monorepo Tool
Perhaps most directly, let's refer to https://monorepo.tools/ (made by Nrwl, the company responsible for that confusingly-named "Nx" tool):
https://monorepo.tools/#monorepo-features
They then list several monorepo tools and compare them using these criteria. I do think Standard+Nix accomplish at least some of these requirements. Does Standard belong on that list too? Should it?
I am a little skeptical of the self-promotional aspect of that website, so here is another reference point with quite a lot less gloss:
https://www.robinwieruch.de/javascript-monorepos/