djrrb / Bungee

A chromatic signage typeface for vertical and horizontal setting.
https://djr.com/bungee
SIL Open Font License 1.1
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Bungee (including Layers fonts) no longer sorts into desktop-friendly menus #120

Open djrrb opened 4 months ago

djrrb commented 4 months ago

In desktop apps (including Adobe), Bungee’s styles no longer sort into nice families (Bungee, Bungee Layers, Bungee Rotated, etc.)

I figure this is an intentional change and comports with Google Fonts practice to only include weights and italics with the same family name? And I’m guessing a decision has been made that it’s okay that these new names will break compatibility with older documents?

I’m wondering if you think this separation also needs to apply to Layers fonts, which Google Fonts does not distribute, and where it is especially helpful to have the styles sorted into the same family for easy flipping between layers?

Sorry if these questions are annoying and/or being asked too far after-the-fact...pretty must just want to confirm that this stuff is intentional before letting it go.

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justvanrossum commented 4 months ago

I notice the released fonts do not contain name IDs 16 and 17. Setting those to the desired values likely fixes this problem.

justvanrossum commented 4 months ago

Do you consider Tint and Spice to be part of the "Bungee" family, or should they be grouped as their own? The former makes most sense as the color fonts don't have a common family name distinct from the basic group.

How about this "preferred family + style name" grouping:

Bungee

- Bungee -- Regular
- Bungee -- Hairline
- Bungee -- Inline
- Bungee -- Outline
- Bungee -- Shade
- Bungee -- Spice
- Bungee -- Tint

Bungee Layers

- Bungee Layers -- Regular
- Bungee Layers -- Inline
- Bungee Layers -- Outline
- Bungee Layers -- Shade

Bungee Layers Rotated

- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Regular
- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Inline
- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Outline
- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Shade

(Taking into account the fixing of names the Layered Rotated fonts, as noted in #119)

djrrb commented 4 months ago

If this works for you, it works for me! I think it will be good to make this consistent with v1 unless there is a reason to change it.

Do you consider Tint and Spice to be part of the "Bungee" family, or should they be grouped as their own? The former makes most sense as the color fonts don't have a common family name distinct from the basic group.

I hear that, though maybe since Bungee Spice was released as a separate family, there is precedent to let that and Tint remain their own families. So I guess I have a slight preference towards that but could go either way.

justvanrossum commented 4 months ago

to let that and Tint remain their own families

That can work, too. Like this?

Bungee

- Bungee -- Regular
- Bungee -- Hairline
- Bungee -- Inline
- Bungee -- Outline
- Bungee -- Shade

Bungee Tint

- Bungee Tint -- Regular

Bungee Spice

- Bungee Spice -- Regular

Bungee Layers

- Bungee Layers -- Regular
- Bungee Layers -- Inline
- Bungee Layers -- Outline
- Bungee Layers -- Shade

Bungee Layers Rotated

- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Regular
- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Inline
- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Outline
- Bungee Layers Rotated -- Shade