Secret level 1 too hard because of WoP trap rebalance

[Loobinex]

Got feedback that the secret level 1 (demon spawn into dragon), became too hard due to the Word of Power trap changes. Since 2eb47e8 WoP traps do a lot more pushback, and this level has a maze of WoP traps with heroes shooting at you.

I suggest changing the shot on this level only to do old damage. Currently there is no map script available to do so.

[yani]

Maybe there should be a balance between the new trap config and the original one?

AreaDamage = 7 150 256

[Loobinex]

Maybe there should be a balance between the new trap config and the original one?

I think the new values are just fine, to now make a useful combo trap. This level was just balanced around the old trap, and they used many of such traps. So rebalancing this level over the trap makes more sense to me.

[walt253]

I would set the trap to have only 1 shot with script command on this level and maybe remove some of them on the terrain?

[Loobinex]

I would set the trap to have only 1 shot with script command on this level and maybe remove some of them on the terrain?

they would pingpong you still and killing you in one shot. Somebody needs to make a 'set_shot_configuration' script command and everything is right in the world.

[Whurrhurr]

i also remember word of power traps being able to knock creatures unconscious instead of outright killing them if you turn imprisoning on. my only guess is back when the WoP trap was "fixed", they fixed it by making the WoP trap use the creature spell version of it instead of giving the trap version knockback (which i assume they didn't know how to do at the time) which also has the side effect of the mentor saying that "your minions are winning a battle"/"your creatures are falling in battle" when a WoP trap knocks a creature out or kills a creature/your creatures get knocked out by it or die to it. granted this is a different issue, but i've been meaning to report it for years and just haven't found the time to do so until now.

[Loobinex]

granted this is a different issue, but i've been meaning to report it for years and just haven't found the time to do so until now.

Listed it here now, thanks for the feedback.

[Loobinex]

@Whurrhurr The stunning is fixed,... how do you get the "your minions are winning a battle"/"your creatures are falling in battle" messages with the WoP trap?

[Whurrhurr]

the trap killing/knocking your creatures out in question had to be outside your view, since the mentor no longer comments on your creatures killing other creatures/being killed by other creatures that are within your view, i'll try alpha 3409 on level 8 in the original campaign because there is a enemy-owned WoP trap on the level.

[Whurrhurr]

fx1g0004.zip

here is a save of level 8 on alpha 3409, i also noticed that the gas traps here were bugged and didn't damage my imps when they set one off, drop the imp near the tile that has the word of power trap on it and move the camera down south before the imp triggers the trap.

[Loobinex]

here is a save of level 8 on alpha 3409, i also noticed that the gas traps here were bugged and didn't damage my imps when they set one off, drop the imp near the tile that has the word of power trap on it and move the camera down south before the imp triggers the trap.

@Whurrhurr Thanks. we broke gas/wop traps for a bit, but both traps should work again, and the 2 issues you reported should be fixed now in alpha 3416.