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Docker Official Image packaging for EA builds of OpenJDK from Oracle
http://openjdk.java.net
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Adoptopejdk to Adoptium - Eclipse Temurin #485

Closed opengeekv2 closed 2 years ago

opengeekv2 commented 2 years ago

As it is not clear who long adoptopenjdk will keep beingonline do you plan to migrate to Adoptium as your binary source and make this image based on Eclipse Temurin JDK instead?

tianon commented 2 years ago

To be clear - this image is not and has never been "based on" AdoptOpenJDK. Some of the builds it is using (specifically for OpenJDK 8 and 11) are vanilla OpenJDK builds created by Red Hat (under the direction of the relevant updates project lead), and they are generously hosted by the AdoptOpenJDK project:

https://github.com/docker-library/openjdk/blob/198895da839835656064d35ed7b480bfa4587f91/11/jdk/buster/Dockerfile#L33-L45

You can find the tooling responsible for creating them at https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk11-upstream-binaries and https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk8-upstream-binaries.

You can also see in https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk11-upstream-binaries/issues/23 where I asked the maintainers what the future home of them might be given the status of the AdoptOpenJDK project and was told that they will continue to be hosted under AdoptOpenJDK.

The builds for other versions (17, 18, 19) are vanilla OpenJDK builds provided by Oracle at https://jdk.java.net/.

opengeekv2 commented 2 years ago

So, in case of vanilla OpenJDK versions (17 LTS, 18 and 19) they will only be receiving updates for 6 months since release date because that's Oracle's policy for those builds. Am I right? So 6 months from release any tag of this image (even LTSs) will not receive more updates (because of JDK, maybe yes for other layers) since no binaries will be published by Oracle. Is this a correct reasoning? I just want to confirm this so I can make my mind up of what image would I want to use as base.

tianon commented 2 years ago

Unfortunately, yes, that is correct for versions 17, 18, and 19 (but as far as I know, the 8 and 11 builds will be maintained as long as the relevant updates projects are still maintained).

opengeekv2 commented 2 years ago

Wouldn't be better for the users of your image to pull from Java "distros" that are supported for the whole LTS time? As it's a bit hidden from which vendor are you pulling each version in the docs maybe there's people using the Java 17 version expecting they'll get updates for the whole LTS. At least would be great to mention this on the README or the image description as it has required some amount research to come to that conclusion and I think it's relevant. I wouldn't mind helping.

tianon commented 2 years ago

I'd suggest giving https://github.com/docker-library/openjdk/issues/320 a read through to understand the flame war we endured that led us to the current situation -- unfortunately, we can't/won't be promoting any particular distribution as "OpenJDK" here (which is why we stick to the strictly vanilla builds, even though the situation is far from ideal).

I would love to see this documented better in the image description, but it's a bit complicated and we definitely can't give any specific recommendations -- perhaps a middle ground would be to list all the distributions available in the official images program in alphabetical order or something? The tricky part is coming up with some good neutral wording to describe the current situation and what it means for users.

opengeekv2 commented 2 years ago

I'm sorry if I picked a sensitive issue in the comunity. Also I reopened It by accident.

El dv., 14 de gen. 2022, 19:14, Tianon Gravi @.***> va escriure:

I'd suggest giving #320 https://github.com/docker-library/openjdk/issues/320 a read through to understand the flame war we endured that led us to the current situation -- unfortunately, we can't/won't be promoting any particular distribution as "OpenJDK" here (which is why we stick to the strictly vanilla builds, even though the situation is far from ideal).

I would love to see this documented better in the image description, but it's a bit complicated and we definitely can't give any specific recommendations -- perhaps a middle ground would be to list all the distributions available in the official images program in alphabetical order or something? The tricky part is coming up with some good neutral wording to describe the current situation and what it means for users.

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