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Collective responsibility of ordinary citizens #2387

Closed Maligosus closed 5 months ago

Maligosus commented 5 months ago

Is it really a person’s fault that he lives in Russia and cannot leave?

I understand if paid subscriptions were banned, there is really no way to make payments due to sanctions, but why did you decide to prohibit using the free features of the hub.

We are a private company, we do not work for the Russian government, I do not support the war in Ukraine.

cuyk commented 5 months ago

Your private company and you personally still pay taxes, aren't you? ¯_(ツ)_/¯ There are ways of lifting such thing of yourself. It will bring you even more discomfort for a time being, but it's possible. So you're not supporting the war, but not against it and but willing to do nothing, I guess.

andrew-qa commented 5 months ago

Well, collective responsibility applies if you've been held accountable for war crimes committed by your military in Ukraine. However, that's not even remotely similar to being unable to pull Docker images. So, please stop acting like a victim here.

Maligosus commented 5 months ago

Your private company and you personally still pay taxes, aren't you? ¯(ツ)/¯ There are ways of lifting such thing of yourself. It will bring you even more discomfort for a time being, but it's possible. So you're not supporting the war, but not against it and but willing to do nothing, I guess.

There is no need to say anything about taxes if you don’t know how it works, in your country there are a lot of foreign companies that work with us, so let’s not say anything about it, so there is no point in continuing the dialogue with you.

l13t commented 5 months ago

There is no need to say anything about taxes if you don’t know how it works, in your country there are a lot of foreign companies that work with us, so let’s not say anything about it, so there is no point in continuing the dialogue with you.

The usual soviet takes "What about....". Time flies, but nothing changes.

vvershilovich commented 5 months ago

I wonder, will the countries in Europe that pay the Russian government way more for oil and gas than all private companies combined also be blocked? Or is it 'a different story'?

neshkeev commented 5 months ago

This is just a sucker punch.

A reasonable company would've warned people about blocking Russian IPs beforehand.

Good luck blocking Open Source, adding mirrors to our configs took like a minute, so the impact on business is minimal, but the reputation damage is huge. The whole world saw what you did today and you're at risk of losing business in China, India and many other sovereign countries

simonsk1990 commented 5 months ago

As always, playing the victim. Actions have consequences, you break international law, you get punished by sanctions, including technological sanctions.

l13t commented 5 months ago

Good luck blocking Open Source, adding mirrors to our configs took like a minute, so the impact on business is minimal, but the reputation damage is huge. The whole world saw what you did today and you're at risk of losing business in China, India and many other sovereign countries

Nice try, but no. Today was blocked country that doesn't care about licenses and laws (starting from 2022 your country steals software, films, cartoons, etc.). And docker hub has nothing to do with open source. It's a commercial platform that provides hosting of the data, so that is their business who can have access to their platform and who doesn't.

notcodev commented 5 months ago

OMG! Politics has reached open source projects... It's so stupid move to restrict Russian developers to use docker hub... These are no longer sanctions but some kind of racism

l13t commented 5 months ago

Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity.

Where do you see racism?

KweezyCode commented 5 months ago

@cuyk

Your private company and you personally still pay taxes, aren't you? ¯(ツ)/¯ There are ways of lifting such thing of yourself. It will bring you even more discomfort for a time being, but it's possible. So you're not supporting the war, but not against it and but willing to do nothing, I guess.

You are very brave being abroad, but if you were in Russia, at best you would be sitting silently with your tongue up your a*s, and at worst you would be in jail for discrediting the army (this is a real law, you can get up to 15 years in jail for violating this article in the law). Not everyone has the financial ability to leave here, just look at the number of people who have loans, it's about 40% of the population of the country, who can give up to 80% of their salary to pay off loans, it's a very sad statistic.

I, as an ordinary developer doing personal projects for myself, suffer from the actions of sanctions and the actions of docker hub in particular, as they are not against war, but against ordinary people.

vstets23 commented 5 months ago

This can quite easily be fixed; just ask your government to stop the invasion. Or you can't ?

baznikin commented 5 months ago

This can quite easily be fixed; just ask your government to stop the invasion. Or you can't ?

You are silly. Russia in enormous, civil society trampled into the mud with spec-op police decades ago. All you can do there - leave country if you can (I leaved, thank all the gods), wear T-shirt with letter 'Z' or shout your mouth. If you put :+1: on post on social networks against war you can be arrested, it is modern Russian reality. https://zapad24.ru/uploads/posts/2021-02/1612145185_avatarka.jpg - real photo from my home city, year before invasion. Thing became waaaaay harder since that "old good times".

chtuqu commented 5 months ago

@simonsk1990

you break international law

I believe you should probably refrain from this discussion being an Israeli.