Ruby/Sapphire Correctness Issues

[stevedor]

Describe the bug The route data appears to be built around Emerald, and contains some inaccuracies for Ruby and Sapphire.

To Reproduce "Reproduction" is starting a new Ruby or Sapphire game and confirming that there are routes/areas that aren't accessible or pokemon data that is incorrect. See the list below.

Expected behavior Data should be consistent with what's possible in the games

This issue is core to the data in the application, but: Desktop (please complete the following information):

• OS: Windows
• Browser: Firefox
  • Version 116

Smartphone (please complete the following information):

• Not tested, but I'm certain the issue is present on all mobile browsers.

Additional context A few examples:

• Littleroot Town: The Kanto starters are only available in Emerald, but are listed for Littleroot Town. Source
• Altering Cave: This location only exists in Emerald, Leaf Green, and Fire Red. It does not exist in Ruby nor Sapphire. Source
• Mirage Tower: This location only exists in Emerald. Source
• Desert Underpass: This location only exists in Emerald. Source
• Fiery Path and Route 111 are both listed after Flannery; however, both must be traversed prior to battling Flannery. This is very confusing because it appears the paths are "missing" if trying to follow the tracker top to bottom.
  • Fiery Path should follow Route 112 in the list
  • Route 111 should be in the section after Watson. In the current order, it should probably follow route 117. (There is an argument that Route 117 should actually be listed before Watson, since it's fully accessibly before battling him.)
• Fortree City: Only Skitty is available here; Plusle is Emerald-only. Source
• Artisan Cave: This location is Emerald-only. Source

Debatable Inaccuracies:

• Regis:
  • The application lists the only pokemon accessible on Routes 105, 111, and 120 as Regice, Regirock, Registeel
  • There are other Pokemon accessible on these routes, and arguably the player has the choice to not take the regis. These other Pokemon should be listed
  • Arguably, the Regis each have their own case and shouldn't be listed for the route. For example. Regice is in the Island Cave
• Route 119: The application lists only Casform as available on this Route. The player is not required to accept the Casform gift Pokemon. The player could simply not talk to the rescued scientists or talk to them with a full party. The other Pokemon accessible on this route should be listed. (And similar to the Regis, Casform is arguably available in the Weather Institute and not Route 119 at all.)
• Desert: While not officially supported by Nuzlocke rules, it's not uncommon for players to consider the Hoenn desert to be a unique place even though it doesn't have its own route/location name. It does have a variety of Pokemon that cannot be caught anywhere else and requires a new badge to access, unless the rest of the route. My opinion is that the application should support this by listing it as a separate biome. However, I do understand that this could be misleading to people who don't wish to play that way. Reddit discussion on whether this is a separate biome with split opinions and Lake Valor discussion.
• Ocean Route Order: The application lists several of the early ocean routes in the order the player traverses them. However, the player does so via a boat and cannot encounter any wild Pokemon on these routes until much later in the game--when they gain access to Surf. They should be moved until the player is able to have encounters on them. Similarly, at least one route is listed after the 8th gym despite being completely accessible after the player gets Surf (5th badge).
  • Completely Inaccessible until Surf:
  • Route 105: Encounters on this route are impossible until after Norman. The player cannot fish on this route or access any part of it without Surf.
  • Route 108: Listed after Wallace (8th Gym) but the player can have encounters on this route after Norman.
  • Partially Accessible before Surf:
  • These are listed because, while the player can get encounters, the cannot get a pokemon from all of these routes until after Surf. This is even more true if a player catches a Pokemon by fishing in Dewford town. The ideal solution would be to create a second, linked entry after the player gets Surf. If the player already caught a Pokemon here, it would show in the linked entry. However, if they hadn't, it would show empty to remind the player the could return to these routes, surf, and catch a new Pokemon.
  • Route 106: The player could fish this route with an Old Rod before Surf. (Tentacool, Magikarp only)
  • Route 107: The player could fish this route with an Old Rod before Surf. (Tentacool, Magikarp only)
  • Route 109: The player could fish this route with an Old Rod before Surf. (Tentacool, Magikarp only)

[stevedor]

Some of these changes are actually preset in the data; however, they are not reflected on https://nuzlocke.app/. I'm not sure if that's just an older deployment of the application or if there's something else going on.

[stevedor]

I am working on a fix, but it looks like I need to modify the JSON directly. Is there a way to access the .txt files mentioned in the README? I don't see them in the project.

Also, I'm having some issues running the application on my end. Yarn is failing to install pokemon-assets 0.6.0 (404 not found). I tried 0.7.0 but it claims to be getting a malformed response. I'll keep an eye on it and see if either of these issues resolves so I can test my changes before submitting a PR.

[gr3ger]

I am working on a fix, but it looks like I need to modify the JSON directly. Is there a way to access the .txt files mentioned in the README? I don't see them in the project.

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