Closed jzabroski closed 1 year ago
Triage notes: I've asked the CPS team about this.
CPS confirmed that this is a problem and there's currently no way to prevent these from overlapping.
@jzabroski what files are experiencing this issue? I would expect design-time builds should not be modifying files on disk, and any file reads during build should be made permitting shared reads. This problem isn't something I've seen reported elsewhere, so perhaps there's something that can be improved in the Protobuf compiler you're using that would avoid this (by modifying how files are locked, modifying how long file locks are held for (eg: buffering in memory then flushing rather than streaming to disk), or perhaps by adding retries so that builds complete successfully, albeit with a delay.
@jzabroski we're going to close this out for now as there's nothing clearly actionable here yet. We can reopen later if that changes. Thanks.
@jzabroski what files are experiencing this issue?
I missed this question.
This happens with Google Protobuf Compiler MSBuild hooks. Some of these targets have been worked on by Microsoft interns but they did not clearly document why they disabled DesignTimeBuild calls to certain Protobuf targets: They added DisableProtobufDesignTimeBuild property, with not much clarity as to why (although I think I was able to figure it out over many weeks of on and off debugging: CPS doesn't intelligently run things concurrently).
In any case, it is pretty bad that the "design" of MSBuild and CPS is that all tasks must be process re-entrant safe. Totally nuts if you ask me. I'm also a bit shocked there is no way to prevent it. Feels like a house of cards to close this.
@drewnoakes One follow up question if you can spare a few minutes. Can you explain why the CPS can't just avoid running a DesignTimeBuild during another Build from within Visual Studio? It seems like a straightforward mutex to me. I figure some additional color may help me understand this better.
My understanding is that design-time builds are expected to not change anything on disk, which would make the safe to run concurrent with real builds.
I am not deeply familiar with how CPS schedules DTBs but I do know there are several ways to run them (for example, depending upon whether there are in-memory changes that aren't saved to disk yet), meaning they can run in process or out of process. This wouldn't just be adding a mutex and calling it done.
Either way, the request doesn't fall on this repo. It'd have to be a feedback ticket, which could then be assigned to the relevant team internally. If you want to file one, I'll make sure it's forwarded appropriately. You'd have to make a strong case for this change though, as the engineering cost associated with it is likely high, and given there hasn't been much signal for this I can't imagine it getting to the top of the priority list.
I suspect it'd be easier to update the protobuf package's behaviour during design-time builds. This documentation may be helpful: https://github.com/dotnet/project-system/blob/main/docs/design-time-builds.md#determining-whether-a-target-is-running-in-a-design-time-build
Thanks; agree, not on the priority list but just another MSBuild foot-gun to be mindful of.
Was a little confused to hear project-system repo shouldnt be used for CPS issues. What is the difference between dotnet/project-system repo and the CPS?
dotnet/project-system is built on top of CPS. Organisationally, this repo belongs to .NET, and CPS belongs to the VS platform. CPS is not only used for .NET projects. Our teams work closely together. Customer-facing CPS issues are tracked in feedback tickets.
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Microsoft Visual Studio Professional 2022 Version 17.1.3 VisualStudio.17.Release/17.1.3+32328.378
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Installing the Visual Studio Project System Tools for Visual Studio 2022 revealed that DesignTimeBuild and Build were running concurrently, and it is this concurrent execution that was causing spurious "file is opened by another process" errors during build.
Steps to Reproduce
Expected Behavior
DesignTimeBuild should not run concurrently with Build of same csproj. It is super difficult to debug these problems when they occur, and waste a ton of time. Core Tools should be simple to comprehend.
Actual Behavior
DesignTimeBuild runs concurrently with Build. This can cause spurious failures when tasks run by DesignTimeBuild try to access mutex'd resources Build tasks are running, and vice versa.
User Impact
I have to explain to every developer in my organization a workaround for this problem, or they will hit productivity road blocks whenever they encounter this error and don't know what the root cause is.