gone with ff 53.0

[traut21]

Your DownThemAll! and Browser Version and Language and Operating System

FireFox 53.0 MacOS 10.10 DTA 3.0.7

Expected Behavior

Actual Behavior

DTA is still marked as active. But it is now longer shown within the tools menu or within the toolbar

So DTA is gone from now on?

[Ander3232]

DTA's options are gone from Open/Save File dialogs now, too.

[AlexBeLi]

http://www.downthemall.net/re-downthemall-and-webextensions-or-why-why-i-am-done-with-mozilla/

[traut21]

nothing new, Nils wrote this half a year ago

[AlexBeLi]

Last commit dated 26 Jan. Looks as addon was abandoned. "I honestly hate you [mozilla] right now." "Bye"

[Ander3232]

Huh... I still have DTA on my FF toolbar, and I can invoke it from the context menu, and it still works fine from those places. What I meant was, the file-saving dialogs are the only place a DTA option no longer appears.

Too bad about the dev's anti-Mozilla rant. I can't say I'm technical enough to understand it, but I assume some changes were made to the FF API that made it more difficult to maintain DTA...? Did Mozilla actually do that on purpose, though? Ah well, life's complicated...

[AlexBeLi]

@Ander3232 Yep, that is exactly on purpose :confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/04/05/compatibility-firefox-54/#comment-223852

[hook321]

If the addon does continue, then it will likely switch to being only a Pale Moon addon.

[Ander3232]

Too bad. The name "Pale Moon" seems particularly unfortunate, as (a.) it could be considered a "pale comparison" of FF; and (b.) a moon orbits a planet, implying that PM simply orbits (i.e. echoes) FF's development. Neither of these things are true, of course, but the psychology of marketing does come into play. (Do foxes howl at the moon as well?)

[louisvd]

I can't believe Mozilla consider this "acceptable risk"! I need downthemall for large file downloads and verifying SHAxSUMs - I hate native Firefox's useless save link system. What options do I have as a Linux only user? Will DTA work on Seamonkey, or is it also going the webextensions route? What, if anything else can I use instead?
Seems as a user from the days of Firefox 1 it's time I trash this browser. :(

[Ander3232]

Clearly we have many questions, most of which seem fated to go unanswered. I'm sure you'll agree: Once they reach a certain scale, even OS projects like FF can take on the characteristics of faceless corporations, deaf to the pleas of their users whom they've callously required to, for example, revert to downloading stuff in slow, awkward, solitary '90s-style lumps. As we speak, I bet some FF add-on coordinator is careening down a Silicon Valley freeway, sticking her head out of her Porsche, $200 haircut whipping in the wind, laughing haughtily at the power she holds over us, the disenfranchised former power-downloading masses.

If this has totally off-put you to FF, I can recommend Chrome. It's noticeably faster than FF—at startup, especially!—and while I'm not fond of the idea of being beholden to a mega-corp like Google, let's face it: We use their search engine all the time, so what's the difference if we're doing it with their browser too? I keep FF on hand to use now and then for nostalgic "remember when it was so great...?" purposes.

[jdrch]

If this has totally off-put you to FF, I can recommend Chrome. It's noticeably faster than FF—at startup, especially!—and while I'm not fond of the idea of being beholden to a mega-corp like Google, let's face it: We use their search engine all the time, so what's the difference if we're doing it with their browser too? I keep FF on hand to use now and then for nostalgic "remember when it was so great...?" purposes.

DTA was Firefox's killer app for me. Strongly considering just abandoning the latter completely for Chrome now.

[louisvd]

Hmm, I am very pleased to say that with Firefox 55 on Fedora 26 my Downthemall appears in the Tools menu again. Have they changed their minds or am I just lucky?