dpradov
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10 months ago Hello, could you show a URL where I can test it? And please, indicate your regional configuration, and the options in the note where you pasted it.
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dpradov
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10 months ago Hello, could you show a URL where I can test it? And please, indicate your regional configuration, and the options in the note where you pasted it.
T-igra
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10 months ago https://habr.com/ru/articles/691192/
I simply selected and copied (Ctrl+C) the text in Russian and then pasted (Ctrl+V) it into the note.
dpradov
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9 months ago Hello @T-igra , I cannot reproduce the problem Could you show what the regional configuration of your computer is (default codepage and language settings)?
Something like this (in my case):
Please, show me also the content of 'Note properties'
Regards Daniel
gregta
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3 months ago Dear Daniel Prado Velasco!
For version 1.9.3.1, the encoding problem remains relevant. Again, KeyNote NF, when capturing text in the original Unicode encoding to the clipboard (for example, on the page https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вега,_Лопе_де ) inserts the captured text in ANSI encoding. Your recommendations, unfortunately, do not help. Windows 8.1, x32 bit, russian.
So far I am using version 1.7.8.1, and there were no such problems there.
Additionally, when you try to change the font of a note, you receive an error warning.
gregta
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3 months ago Clipboard settings.
dpradov
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3 months ago I'll try to see what could be happening. The problem is that you are using a very old (and unsupported) version of Windows. And at the very least it would be difficult for me to reproduce it, since I use W11 and I program on a virtual machine with W10...
(The support for Windows 8.1 ended on January 10, 2023. After that date, no further security updates or bug fixes will be provided for Windows 8.1)
Could you at least try if it works for you in W10 or W11, in your language? It is to be confirmed that it is something related to the version of Windows, and not just the language.
Additionally, when you try to change the font of a note, you receive an error warning.
It would also be of great help to me if you could verify if this error occurs on a computer with W10 or W11. Could you check it on a computer with those versions of Windows? (and your language and regional configuration, of course)
gregta
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3 months ago Dear Daniel! Thank you for your answer. I asked you two questions, but I received an answer to only one of them.
1 I don't see any problems in the Windows versions, especially since the language settings (language and regional configuration) have not changed in them. I have noticed many times that programs created in 1995 - 2005 work perfectly in Windows 8.1 if you run them with administrator rights. If program version number 1.9.3.1 was programmed exclusively for Windows 10-11, it would not work at all on Windows 8.1, but it works great in cases of copying from different sources, for example, from Word or from text editors. The exception is copying from Internet pages in browsers. By the way, KeyNote NF 1.7.8.1 was released after the release of Windows 10, and works fine on version 8.1. Why did version 1.9.3.1 encounter encoding difficulties when inserting text from the Internet than did the older version 1.7.8.1? I, as a simple user, tried to compare both versions in KeyNote Settings, and noticed that for a reason unknown to me, for version 1.9.3.1, a new Web Clip part appeared at the bottom of the Advanced -> Clipboard section. My unprofessional logic when comparing versions tells me that it is this new part that is the deterioration of the function, because version 1.7.8.1 coped quite well with encodings when inserting text. The feeling was strange, because the new part in the new version should have served as an improvement, but in reality it did not live up to expectations. Despite the same language settings, version 1.7.8.1 works more correctly in relation to text encodings from the Internet. So it's obvious to me that the new Web Clip part was the source of the problem, because without it, pasting text in 1.7.8.1 was with the correct encoding.
As for my Windows 8.1, I'm used to it and I like it better. I don't need updates, and security is provided by the antivirus. Therefore, I will not update version 8.1. I don't have versions 10 and 11.
2 At the bottom of my comment on the site there is an error (Unexpected Error) when trying to change the default font, which you did not mention in the letter.
Regards, Greg.
P.S. In addition to the above, I would like to offer you help in localizing KeyNote NF in Russian if you explain to me how to do this. I'm not a programmer, so the details of this are unclear to me.
Daniel Prado Velasco 2024-05-10 04:11:
I'll try to see what could be happening. The problem is that you are using a very old (and unsupported) version of Windows. And at the very least it would be difficult for me to reproduce it, since I use W11 and I program on a virtual machine with W10...
(The support for Windows 8.1 ended on January 10, 2023. After that date, no further security updates or bug fixes will be provided for Windows 8.1)
Could you at least try if it works for you in W10 or W11, in your language? It is to be confirmed that it is something related to the version of Windows, and not just the language.
Additionally, when you try to change the font of a note, you receive an error warning.
It would also be of great help to me if you could verify if this error occurs on a computer with W10 or W11. Could you check it on a computer with those versions of Windows? (and your language and regional configuration, of course)
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dpradov
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3 months ago Sorry, but it's not as simple as you indicate. There are many things that can cause you to have problems when pasting text from a browser. First of all, if you look at the "News" note in the help file you will see that version 1.8.0 incorporated very important changes, starting with the use of a new, much more modern version of the compiler, at least adapted for the new versions of Windows. When you paste from a browser KeyNote needs to convert HTML text into RTF and to do this it has to use a system library. There could be incompatibilities between that library and the changes that the application incorporated. Also, the version of the RichEdit control that is available in Windows 8.1 is much older than the one used in W10 and W11 and the subsequent adjustments in the application, tested against the new versions, could cause problems in some cases with versions previous (perhaps). On the other hand, I needed to make many changes to the code to adapt it to the new version of the compiler, starting with the management of the "string" type. And an endless number of other things. That said, the application includes many corrections and improvements compared to version 1.7.8.
My unprofessional logic when comparing versions tells me that it is this new part that is the deterioration of the function, because version 1.7.8.1 coped quite well with encodings when inserting text.
Well, it has nothing to do with these new functionalities, but with the conversion from HTML and the way in which ANSI or Unicode is interpreted, which of course may be due to some error caused by the new versions (but in something more internal).
As for my Windows 8.1, I'm used to it and I like it better. I don't need updates, and security is provided by the antivirus. Therefore, I will not update version 8.1. I don't have versions 10 and 11.
It's your decision. I can assure you that there are vulnerabilities that an antivirus cannot avoid.
At the bottom of my comment on the site there is an error (Unexpected Error) when trying to change the default font, which you did not mention in the letter.
Yes I got to answer you:
Additionally, when you try to change the font of a note, you receive an error warning. It would also be of great help to me if you could verify if this error occurs on a computer with W10 or W11. Could you check it on a computer with those versions of Windows? (and your language and regional configuration, of course)
I need you to try the same actions that give you these problems from a computer with W10 or W11 (from a friend or family member [*]), to confirm if it is something related to the characteristics of the page code and the type of font you use, or the Windows version (or perhaps both).
[*] Remember that it is not necessary to install Keynote NF. It can be run from a folder, portable.
dpradov
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3 months ago In addition to the above, I would like to offer you help in localizing KeyNote NF in Russian if you explain to me how to do this. I'm not a programmer, so the details of this are unclear to me.
There is information here:
But it is not yet possible because I must first generate the file to be translated, and I have not done so because I still need to make many adjustments and I do not have time for it. For the moment I have preferred to advance on other issues that I understand are more important or urgent.
Thanks for the offer. When it is possible to do the translation I will let you know.
dpradov
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3 months ago Additionally, when you try to change the font of a note, you receive an error warning.
Does it happen to you after trying to paste text from a web page (with the coding problem you mention)? Or at any time and any folder? For example, if you create a new file and right at that moment you press F6 and change the source, do you get the error?
dpradov
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3 months ago when capturing text in the original Unicode encoding to the clipboard (for example, on the page [https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вега,_Лопе_де](https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/
What browser (and version) do you use?
In the screenshot you show with information from that URL (data from Félix Lope de Vega) there is part that looks good and part that looks bad. How did you incorporate the part that looks good? Is it an image, a screenshot?
dpradov
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3 months ago @Stefanoko, could you please check from the last version (1.9.3) run on your computer with Windows 7 (if you still have it) if it works for you to paste text from the web page indicated by @gregta (the text is in Russian, using UTF8 encoding as I see in the source code of the page)? It works perfectly for me, but I am using W10 and W11, and I suspect that it may be something related to making the BOM character string explicit. If I remember correctly (I would have to review the code) in current versions of RichEdit I needed to add the characters (BOM) that identify the UTF8 text (In hexadecimal: EF, BB, BF) Perhaps the problem is because the version of the RichEdit control available in W8.1 does not correctly handle those BOM characters. And the RichEdit version of W7 should be very similar to that of W8.1
Thanks
dpradov
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3 months ago @gregta Can you do the following test? Copy the paragraph you used as an example from the browser. Then paste it into WordPad. It should appear exclusively as plain text, without offering the various hyperlinks it contains. Now copy the paragraph again from the browser and paste it into KeyNote NF. It doesn't matter right now that it looks bad. This operation should have forced the conversion from HTML to RTF so that on the clipboard you should now see from KeyNote NF:
Or from WordPad:
Then try pasting into WordPad again. It should use RTF format. You can also force it through Paste Special. As shown? If the conversion has been correct, it should paste the paragraph including the hyperlinks.
It is to try to find out if the problem occurs in the conversion process or when copying the converted text into the note.
dpradov
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3 months ago Good news. I have managed to reproduce the problem on W10, as @T-igra also pointed out On my virtual machine with W10 I have installed the Russian language and have also set it in the region/country and regional format settings. With these changes the application has continued to work well, with complete normality. But it has been from setting Russian as the system's regional configuration, from the following window:
when the behavior you describe has been reproduced, and the copied text has stopped pasting correctly. That setting is what "will be used when displaying text in programs that do not support Unicode"
This is great news because it allows me to analyze what is causing it and correct it.
gregta
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3 months ago There are many things that can cause you to have problems when pasting text from a browser. ... And an endless number of other things.
It's a pity :( It would also be of great help to me if you could verify if this error occurs on a computer with W10 or W11. Could you check it on a computer with those versions of Windows?
Unfortunately, I can't check. Additionally, when you try to change the font of a note, you receive an error warning. ... Does it happen to you after trying to paste text from a web page (with the coding problem you mention)? Or at any time and any folder? For example, if you create a new file and right at that moment you press F6 and change the source, do you get the error?
NO - in all cases, i.e. it was never possible to reach the fontchange dialog.
What browser (and version) do you use?
I use several browsers at once, and the choice of browser did notaffect the insertion result.
In the screenshot you show with information from that URL (data from Felix Lope de Vega) there is part that looks good and part that looks bad. How did you incorporate the part that looks good? Is it an image, a screenshot?
I took a screenshot from the browser page only as a roughillustration from which I copied, but it was pasted into the editor, into which I inserted clear text. Then I took a general screenshot.
Copy the paragraph you used as an example from the browser. Then paste it into WordPad. It should appear exclusively as plain text, without offering the various hyperlinks it contains. Now copy the paragraph again from the browser and paste it into KeyNote NF. Then try pasting into WordPad again. It should use RTF format. You can also force it through Paste Special.
Everything can be seen in the attached screenshots. Good news. I have managed to reproduce the problem on W10, as @T-igra also pointed out
...
This is great news because it allows me to analyze what is causing it and correct it.
Excellent Daniel, I was sure you would find a solution. By the way,I remembered how for Android, unlike Windows, for the popularity and greater distribution of applications, many of their authors describe that these NEW applications are applicable in all versions of Android, starting with version 4 or 2, despite the fact that the latest version - Android 14. I wish you good luck and time to improve KeyNote NF.
P.S. Another problem is that there is a difficulty in the helplaunch command. Visible in the screenshot Error-Help.jpg.
Daniel Prado Velasco - 2024-05-11 13:12:
Good news. I have managed to reproduce the problem on W10, as @T-igra [1] also pointed out On my virtual machine with W10 I have installed the Russian language and have also set it in the region/country and regional format settings. With these changes the application has continued to work well, with complete normality. But it has been from setting Russian as the system's regional configuration, from the following window:
imagen.png (view on web) [2]
when the behavior you describe has been reproduced, and the copied text has stopped pasting correctly. That setting is what "will be used when displaying text in programs that do not support Unicode"
This is great news because it allows me to analyze what is causing it and correct it.
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dpradov
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3 months ago Does it happen to you after trying to paste text from a web page (with the coding problem you mention)? Or at any time and any folder? For example, if you create a new file and right at that moment you press F6 and change the source, do you get the error? NO - in all cases, i.e. it was never possible to reach the font change dialog.
And you also can't see the font dialog for any text selection using the toolbar button or the "Format | Font" menu option?
gregta
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3 months ago At any time from the toolbar or menu. And even if I try to change only the font height using the toolbar.
Daniel Prado Velasco писал 2024-05-11 16:13:
Does it happen to you after trying to paste text from a web page (with the coding problem you mention)? Or at any time and any folder? For example, if you create a new file and right at that moment you press F6 and change the source, do you get the error? NO - in all cases, i.e. it was never possible to reach the font change dialog.
And you also can't see the font dialog for any text selection using the toolbar button or the "Format | Font" menu option? imagen.png (view on web) [1]
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Broken encoding when pasting Cyrillic text copied from a web page. 1.8.0 Beta 6, Windows 10 (64)