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Latex templates for the New Zealand Ministry for Primary Industries fisheries reports
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cited references not in consecutive order in the text #40

Closed katrin-berkenbusch closed 2 years ago

katrin-berkenbusch commented 2 years ago

It seems that \citep{} puts the references in alphabetical not consecutive order in the PDF. This change may be due to APA style, but needs to be swapped to have them in consecutive order.

katrin-berkenbusch commented 2 years ago

Any chance of someone to look into this issue within the next week or so? maybe @richardmansfield ?

richardmansfield commented 2 years ago

For once it was easy! It's running now, and will be in dragonflyscience/dragonverse-22.04:2022-08-02 soon.

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dmiddleton commented 2 years ago

Out of curiosity:

@richardmansfield , does the sortcites=false approach mean that the user is responsible for putting the citations into chronological order in their code?

@katrin-berkenbusch I assume this was another of the ongoing minor tweaks that MPI seem to be requesting each report submission (i.e., rather than defining the required format completely once and for all?)

katrin-berkenbusch commented 2 years ago

@dmiddleton Hi there, no, having the references in consecutive order in the text has remained consistent and was included again in the MPI template update this year.

katrin-berkenbusch commented 2 years ago

awesome.

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For once it was easy! It's running now, and will be in dragonflyscience/dragonverse-22.04:2022-08-02 soon.

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dmiddleton commented 2 years ago

@dmiddleton Hi there, no, having the references in consecutive order in the text has remained consistent and was included again in the MPI template update this year.

Thanks - looking back I see it was the update to 22.04 when this changed to alphabetical sorting in the FAR example. Good spotting!

richardmansfield commented 2 years ago

So does "consecutive" mean "chronological" here, or not? In my mind those words have different meanings. Damn, github lost one of my email replies.

dmiddleton commented 2 years ago

So does "consecutive" mean "chronological" here, or not? In my mind those words have different meanings. Damn, github lost one of my email replies.

That was my interpretation. But I may be wrong ... @katrin-berkenbusch will confirm!

katrin-berkenbusch commented 2 years ago

Yes,

Sorry, I should’ve been clearer, “chronological" is the word.

Here’s an example of how references look in a FAR PDF at the moment: "Brander et al. 2013, Jutfelt et al. 2018, Lefevre 2016, Lefevre et al. 2018”, but they should be listed in this order: "Brander et al. 2013, Lefevre 2016, Jutfelt et al. 2018, Lefevre et al. 2018”.

[Hm, that’s a tricky example with the alphabetical 2018 reference-ordering thrown in, although it seems to apply automatically if the bib reference is entered correctly].

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So does "consecutive" mean "chronological" here, or not? In my mind those words have different meanings. Damn, github lost one of my email replies.

That was my interpretation. But I may be wrong ... @katrin-berkenbusch will confirm!

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richardmansfield commented 2 years ago

The sample doc works for me now, finally. @katrin-berkenbusch, give dragonflyscience/dragonverse-22.04:2022-08-04 a try when you're ready.

Weirdly enough, APA is using slightly different sorting orders for citations and the reference list. The very newest biblatex now has some support for that. I tried to backport that stuff to the version in ubuntu 22.04, but it was just too hard :(. Instead I have overridden \printbibliography. It works on the sample FAR but might have some side effects I guess.

katrin-berkenbusch commented 2 years ago

Thanks @richardmansfield that sounds great, I'll give it a try. Hopefully I'll catch any side effects. :-)

katrin-berkenbusch commented 2 years ago

it worked like a treat, I haven't found any side effects yet. Thank you @richardmansfield

richardmansfield commented 2 years ago

Oh sorry, yes I guess I just removed sorting. That's just me not realising that consecutive == chronological.

On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at 16:55, David Middleton @.***> wrote:

Out of curiosity:

@richardmansfield https://github.com/richardmansfield , does the sortcites=false approach mean that the user is responsible for putting the citations into chronological order in their code?

@katrin-berkenbusch https://github.com/katrin-berkenbusch I assume this was another of the ongoing minor tweaks that MPI seem to be requesting each report submission (i.e., rather than defining the required format completely once and for all?)

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