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What area does your enhancement or feature relate to? (i.e. Config/Setup,
GUI, options, Skin, AMC Updater, Grabber Interface, etc.)
MF 6.0 already supports IMDBRank as an extended field but no data seems to be 
grabbed in any grabber script.

I think the field name should be changed to IMDbVotes since afaik that is the 
data intended to be grabbed.

Skins can then display rating/votes for IMDB ratings

What is the purpose or benefit of the new feature or enhancement?
It is useful when viewing ratings to know how many users actually contributed 
to that rating. A rating of 9 by only a few users is not the same as a rating 
of 9 by thousands of users!
How would you expect it to work? Can you illustrate it with examples such
as images (screenshots), scenarios or examples from other Plugins?
As outlined above, skin can display rating/votes data

Original issue reported on code.google.com by Dade...@gmail.com on 14 Aug 2012 at 3:36

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Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 27 Oct 2012 at 9:29

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Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 30 Oct 2012 at 3:41

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Would you use it with userdefined field then? Or should a new DB field be 
introduced?
I would suggest the latter, as there is not many grabbers supporting that 
field. Might be worth to first have a look at the most common ones and check!?

Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 21 Nov 2012 at 2:46

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Why a new DB field? - is that not the intended purpose of IMDBRank field?  
AFAIK it is not used, so proposal was only to rename that extended field and 
use it for Votes.

Since IMDB (and lang specific versions) and IMDB OFDB are the most commonly 
used grabbers and both can support votes, I would think a sep. db field is 
justified? 

Original comment by Dade...@gmail.com on 21 Nov 2012 at 7:05

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So do you suggest to replace ranking by votes or not? Initially you were 
talking about replacing the field.
How about the CustomFields? Why not use them for such? (Asking, because I think 
votes and rank are both info, that not many ppl use and only few grabbers 
support).

Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 25 Nov 2012 at 2:07

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Yes I was suggesting we change IMDBRank to Votes. However, if you feel IMDBRank 
is useful, then we need a separate field for Votes, especially since TMDb 
provides them and you can sort by votes in Online Lists. That way MF can 
provide a skin property for votes.

Since this is not a difficult change, and would be useful for Online Lists, 
maybe we should consider adding it to an earlier release?  Even 6.1.0 ? :)

Original comment by Dade...@gmail.com on 6 Sep 2013 at 8:05

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Rank and votes are two different things!
votes = number of user votes, thus an indicator if the rating is based on many 
users.
However, I am not sure, if that is really a useful field and how many ppl will 
use it.
IMDBrank is the ranking on the top list - this data is available on movies, but 
needs regular updates of the catalog, similar to rating, as it changes over 
time.
IMDBrank is already populated my IMDB-Full grabber, but WRONG - it populates 
with the rank CHANGE, which doesn't make sense at all - so the grabber needs 
fixing for that.
So I would like to keep the IMDBrank (and fix grabber) - so tell me, if you 
want me to add Votes as field - this would then depend on schema extension 
issue plus extending grabber.

Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 20 Jun 2014 at 11:34

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Curious because new Online Info views allow you to sort by votes and then 
display them in facade as label2? So I guess it is a useful field LOL.
However IIUC Votes was not added to DB schema, even though it gives you a 
better idea of the 'value' of the rating!

Sorry for the confusion about "Rank" and Votes. What you call 'Rank' is in 
English referred to as 'IMDb Top 250' so I didn't grasp that was 'Rank'

Original comment by Dade...@gmail.com on 23 Jun 2014 at 4:49

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So you still didn't answer, IF it should be added.
I think it should NOT relate to IMDB - so it should be "Votes" - as such info 
exists on other sites as well - e.g. we one might use TMDB Votes.
Imho same applies to IMDBRank - this should be Rank - same as Votes.
However, with latest addition of the online lists, users imho have a more 
comportable way - they can directly display the "rank list" (TMDDB, not IMDB - 
it's called "top-rated") and see in a nice way, which of those films they have 
in their DB.
This somehow makes the Rank info in DB needless - and has the advantage, that 
the top-rated-list is always "up2date", as it is always loaded with latest rank 
data from website/api.

Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 23 Jun 2014 at 8:05

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Yes add it :) and I agree a general field, not only IMDB as many sites show 
some form of 'rank' and 'votes' So changed issue summary.

Original comment by Dade...@gmail.com on 24 Jun 2014 at 3:35

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So, as addinfg the fields means changing DB schema anyway, should we add 
"Votes" and also rename "IMDBRank" to "Rank" ? As currently the field is not 
used by many ppl, we could maybe still do it (as renaming it will loose all 
content of an existing field with the old name !)

Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 24 Jun 2014 at 7:07

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XBMC NFO format (and most movie catalogs that support it) uses 
<top250></top250> for IMDB Rank. And I'm  not sure it is the same thing as 
'Rank' on other sites.

Since you indicated the main purpose of IMDBRank was to display the Top 250 
list like we do for TMDb Popular movies, I tend to agree with you that would be 
more useful than having Rank info in DB. 

So I would say don't change IMDBRank for now. There are too many 
issues/pitfalls ;)

Original comment by Dade...@gmail.com on 24 Jun 2014 at 7:35

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Sorry I meant TMDB Top Rated movies, not Popular Movies.

Original comment by Dade...@gmail.com on 24 Jun 2014 at 7:37

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Votes is probably mostly used to identify a film as "popular" .... many votes 
(and not toooooo bad) = popular - but I didn't check the math behind it ;-)

Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 25 Jun 2014 at 12:39

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Added "Votes" to schema at issue 382

Original comment by Guzz...@googlemail.com on 25 Jun 2014 at 1:01