Closed drnikki closed 7 years ago
from @hrodig "avoid labeling people"
I have a lot of experience in community moderation and I'm willing to take a shift doing it, but I think figuring out our own guidelines for this is actually a huge task, especially given the amount of heat around this right now. I can't imagine we'd be able to get this in place before DC, given all the other stuff we also need to do.
I'm surprised someone hasn't started a separate Slack channel for discussion of this issue. Or maybe they have and didn't invite me. ;-)
I think it is entirely appropriate to incorporate in the guidelines for folks engaging in the DD&I channel to reflect upon the social and economic advantages that they've been privileged to enjoy in their lives and realize that their experiences may not apply to all participants in the community-- and that's a major part of why we're here!
Also, this blog post (http://blog.socious.com/online-community-management-an-overview-on-community-moderation-guidelines) has some good suggestions:
Start with a basic outline of appropriate community etiquette. A concise list of items to consider is:
- Unacceptable content and materials, such as those of an obscene, graphic or pornographic nature
- Inappropriate behaviors, such as hazing, bullying, defamation and intolerance
- Unacceptable community usage, such as commercial advertising or overt self-promotion
- Improper posting practices, such as thread hijacking, spamming, going off-topic and incorrect content placement
- How community members should handle complaints between one another
I'd like to help moderate - I think we'd absolutely need short defined shifts when things are hopping like they are now. I've barely logged in since Friday because I just burnt myself out, and there are so many new folks, and it seems like the conversation is really cyclical. I've seen a lot of complaints about technical limitations, but there are certainly other ways to point people to information saying "these are the rules of posting here, this is what we know, this is what isn't acceptable behavior in this discussion, now you may post" - pretty common in most forums. Of course, we'd have to define all of that first.
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I fully approve of the Moderation stance and agree guidelines are a necessity.
However, I believe we need two sets: Moderation Guidelines and Participation Guidelines
Being reactionary and (though possibly accidentally) exclusive in the DD&I channel would be a bad thing from either Moderators or Participants.
The Drupal IRC Policy is probably a good starting point, which uses the Office Policy of Freenode, as quoted:
In accordance with UK law, freenode and the PDPC have no tolerance for any activity which could be construed as:
- incitement to racial hatred
- incitement to religious hatred
- or any other behaviour meant to deliberately bring upon a person harassment, alarm or distress. We do NOT tolerate discrimination on the grounds of race, religion, gender, sexual preference or other lifestyle choices and run with a zero-tolerance policy for libel and defamation.
While we believe in the concept of freedom of thought and freedom of expression, freenode does not operate on the basis of absolute freedom of speech and we impose limitations eg. on "hate speech".
We expect all members of the community to treat other community members with respect and reserve the right to terminate anyones access to our services should they be found to be in breach of policy.
Boils down, at a start, to "no hate-mongering". Not a bad thing, imho.
I am also amused that the link-title is simply named 'Courtesy': https://www.drupal.org/irc/courtesy
However, I feel the IRC policy may be insufficient for the DD&I Channel simply because we do often deliberately discuss topics which cause distress. Instead, I feel we should expand the ideal to include methods of discussion, mutual respect, and then move on to levels of Moderation & tiered responses.
Note - These are just my initial knee-jerk thoughts and definitely not clear or concise enough to be Guidelines for either.
I almost wonder if we should have a CoC just for the Diversity & Inclusion Channel.....
Initial from http://www.edchange.org/multicultural/activities/groundrules.html and then edited heavily from there.
1. Listen actively, Read Carefully, and Be Understanding Respect others when they are talking. If joining a conversation, read the backlog. Give other Participants the opportunity to communicate effectively. It is also important to read for the intent behind a fellow Participant's statement. The channel includes a very diverse population, with participants from all over the globe. Cultural and lingual quirks do exist.
2. Speak from your own experience instead of generalizing and recognize the worth of others' experience Use "I" instead of "they," "we," and "you". All Participants should recognize that all other Participants have experience which should be respected. Instead of invalidating somebody else's story with your own spin on her or his experience, share your own story and experience.
3. Do not be afraid to respectfully challenge ideas, feelings, concerns, or even one another by asking questions, but refrain from personal attacks -- focus on ideas first. Verbal challenges, backhanded insults, gender/race/region stereotyping, etc. are often exclusionary and should be avoided.
4. Participate to the fullest of your ability community growth depends on the inclusion of every individual voice. Do not be afraid to speak up and speak out.
5. The goal of inclusion is not to agree The goal is to gain a deeper understanding of each other in a respectful manner and act on that understanding & empathy to create a more welcoming, inclusive, and safe environment.
6. Be conscious of language and unintended connotations One of our Slack Participants said it best: "Text is hard". A statement said in jest about "apples" can carry connotations above and beyond any intended verbiage, even when talking about "what is a good snack?"
Golden Rule Strive to promote understanding, empathy, and increase personal awareness while remaining respectful of all people from across the Drupal Community and the greater Technical Community, even those one may personally disagree with.
1. Intentionally disruptive individuals get kicked, not tiered. They can PM the kicker or another Moderator, if desired, for re-admittance, but I feel this one should probably be unilateral. If a disruptive person is engaging in what appears to be intentionally inflammatory, bullying, or harassing behavior to provoking hostile responses (or acting in a hostile manner), kicking is faster and easier than trying to placate you and possibly causing distress to other channel members.
I cannot recall the User, but when starting up we had someone from Twitter follow a member into the Channel and proceed to harass an existing participant with personal attacks and intentionally misleading / leading questions intended to paint the participant in a bad light. (Based on the Participant Guidelines)
NOTE: - The kick is not a ban. There are times when disruptive or "triggering" comments and statements are genuine and merely a break in lines of communication between two parties. By speaking with the Moderator, the (potentially) disruptive person can be coached on using more sensitive, professional, inclusive, and diverse aware verbiage.
I'll reference my own prior experience in/on this. Was triggering a few Members of the group early-on when asking questions on a topic because I was truly confused/ignorant. A few short PMs helped me understand without causing further undue distress.
2. Tier One Response User is gently reminded to keep thoughts and feelings professional and respectful.
3. Tier Two Response User is PM'd by available Admin and reminded to keep thoughts and feelings professional and respectful.
4. Tier Three Response If behavior continues, User is kicked for no less than 24 hours.
5. Non-Tiered Response (Example: User makes threats, statements intending to cause personal harm, etc. ) User is reported, with screenshots, to the CWG and banned from the Channel until Moderators can meet to discuss actions/verbiage used.
As I'm finishing up these thoughts, it occurs to me that we may also want to think about drafting Diverse-&-Inclusive Language Guidelines and/or adopt someone elses (like Drupal does with Freenode's Policies above).
@cleverington I really like a lot of what you've got here. I think my main point of contention is in the Golden Rule section:
Strive to promote understanding, empathy, and increase personal awareness while remaining respectful of all other Channel Participants
I'd like to see this changed to include member of our community who are NOT in channel. I don't need to JUST be respectful about the person with whom I am debating, but also with regard to anyone who may be a current example. i.e. You don't get to characterize some member of leadership as [insert adjectives/nouns here] just because you disagree with a decision. Likewise, you should not characterize someone in the process of being expelled as [insert adjectives/nouns here] either. It's unprofessional, unhelpful, and generally harms the community and its members.
See https://github.com/drupaldiversity/administration/issues/11#issuecomment-289869425 for one area where this issue would come into play.
Yes, characterizing someone as a troll, even if that's a legitimate interpretation of their behavior is unhelpful. I am FAAAAAR from the PC police, but I just don't see how name calling is going to make a difficult situation better.
@EclipseGc would reference back to saying that we should avoid labeling-- that said, it doesn't mean someone isn't engaging in trolling behavior; let's just not call them a name.
@cleverington Maybe rewrite to "person engaging in harassing and bullying behavior".
Thank you @hrod and @EclipseGc for moderating my own out-of-line verbiage.
Though I think it might be more specific to say "disruptive person engaging in what appears to be intentionally inflammatory, bullying, or harassing behavior".
We don't want to be unilaterally kicking people, so generalizations may not be the best approach.
Post about to be edited.
I'll also reference K.I.S.S. as an observation, should anyone want to help remove the Mark Twain'd influence.....
“I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”
I'll volunteer to be on the list of moderators.
Here is a link to collaborate on moderation guidelines https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jSQ_UJhV9ZQUxVkdDfsBlQ8YfuO5EtV82HWwiunZ_T8/edit?usp=sharing
+1 volunteer to moderate
I edited in the google doc and posted in the "issue summary". Feedback welcome. Discussion in slack also welcome.
+1 volunteer to moderate
Moved moderator volunteering to https://github.com/drupaldiversity/administration/issues/69 Note https://github.com/drupaldiversity/administration/issues/31 is related, and about administration/organizing volunteering
Two are different roles. But same person could do both.
Note, this summary has been edited by people other than the original poster.
Closing this issue,
continue iteration on guidelines in https://github.com/drupaldiversity/administration/issues/68 continue to sign up to moderate in https://github.com/drupaldiversity/administration/issues/69 get involved with administration and organization of teams (including moderation) in https://github.com/drupaldiversity/administration/issues/31 ------- previous summary ----
Potential list of moderators (please add yourself here or make a comment below if volunteering): @rubyji @AlannaBurke @YesCT @sugaroverflow @drnikki
This is a draft. We worked on it from a google doc and sometimes copied content to this summary. We used markdown in the google doc for easy posting in the repo later.
Participation
Overview
DD&I spaces (these include online spaces like the slack channel, github repo, and physical spaces like DD&I-organized BoFs at events or DD&I tables in event exhibit halls) are dedicated to providing a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of gender and gender identity, age, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, or religion (or lack thereof). We do not tolerate harassment of Participants in any form. Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate.
Participant Guidelines
Written specifically for DD&I slack, but to be adapted for other spaces.
Additional considerations for in-person DD&I spaces
Policy
DD&I has no tolerance for any activity which could be construed as:
We do not tolerate harassment on the grounds of gender and gender identity, age, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, or religion (or lack thereof). We do not tolerate harassment of Participants in any form.
We run with a zero-tolerance policy for libel and defamation.
While we believe in the concept of freedom of thought and freedom of expression, we do not operate on the basis of absolute freedom of speech and we impose limitations, for example, on "hate speech".
We reserve the right to terminate anyone's access to the DD&I spaces.
Moderation Guidelines
Written specifically for slack, but to be adapted for other spaces.
Moderation Responses
Generally In DD&I spaces, strive to promote understanding, empathy, and increase personal awareness of all people from across the Drupal Community and the greater Technical Community, even those one may personally disagree with.
Intentionally disruptive individuals get kicked, not tiered. The person kicked can PM the kicker or another Moderator, if desired, for re-admittance. If a disruptive person is engaging in what appears to be intentionally inflammatory, bullying, or harassing behavior provoking hostile responses (or acting in a hostile manner), kicking is faster and easier than trying to placate a disruptive person whose behavior is causing distress to other channel members.
The kick is not a ban. There are times when disruptive or "triggering" comments and statements are genuine and break the lines of communication between two parties. By speaking with a Moderator, the (potentially) disruptive person can be coached on using more sensitive, inclusive, and diverse aware verbiage, and on engaging in a more constructive manner.
Moderation examples
Tips for slack moderators
Resources
original issue opening: If this is something we want... we need volunteers willing to help guide (and keep safe) the conversations in the #diversity-inclusion channel (and, still, need to make explicit what those guidelines are.)
So, if you'd like to help moderate - post here. If you have suggestions on moderation guidelines (examples from other communities would be great) - also post here.