Some confusions by “Vector3”

[GrimPixel]

In tabletop-club/assets/TabletopClub/cards/config.cfg, there is a scale = Vector3(6.35, 1, 8.89). The y value should mean 1 cm, however, the card in game looks like 0.01 cm. If I create an object with height 1 cm and write 1 in y, would it be converted to 0.01 cm?

[elmodor]

The default card layout is (1, 0.01, 1). So the scale factors you set in the config are multiplied by this value. If you want a card to be 1cm thick you would need to write 100 in Y - but I assume at that point you should use a token and not a card.

The cube and cylinder tokens are (1,1,1) by default.

[GrimPixel]

Ah, thanks. In my opinion, this is an extra complexity. Typing 0.01 doesn't require much work for each asset.

[drwhut]

To be fair, cards were not really designed to be scaled in the y-axis. Maybe the scale property could be simplified to a Vector2 for the X and Z axes? What do you think?

[elmodor]

Maybe the scale property could be simplified to a Vector2 for the X and Z axes? What do you think?

Sounds good to me. Only expose to the config what should actually be changeable.

[GrimPixel]

In some games like dominoes, anagrams, mahjong, tiles are not supposed to be so thin in y direction.

[drwhut]

In some games like dominoes, anagrams, mahjong, tiles are not supposed to be so thin in y direction.

Cube tokens (which I think would be better suited for the objects you mentioned) would keep the Vector3 scale. This is just for cards, where the thickness, by design, should stay the same.

[GrimPixel]

Per your words, even current French-suited cards can be created with cube tokens. So why don't just remove the “Cards” and create tokens only?

[drwhut]

One could do that, but cards are designed to have no thickness, whereas tokens can have thickness.

[GrimPixel]

Etymologically, “card” comes from Greek “χάρτης”, which means papyrus; “token” comes from Proto-Germanic “*taikną”, which means “symbol”. In my opinion, “tile” is better than “token”. It comes from Latin “tegula”, which means the tile for building. Currently, tokens do not behave like cards in hand.

Usually, people say “mahjong tiles”, “ganjifa cards”, not “mahjong tokens”, “ganjifa tokens”. So I think mahjong would be categorised in “tiles” and ganjifa in “cards”. Ganjifa are round, so if fillets can be specified, the creator can create a square and set its fillet radius to half of its side length, so it is still round.

There is another solution: rename “Cards” to “Cards & Tiles”, so mahjong and ganjifa can be categorised there, and tokens are untouched.

[elmodor]

I will look into this. What I would implement:

• Making the scale optionally a Vector2
• If scale is Vector2 apply a per-defined Y value based on type (for cards this would be 0.01)
• Adjust the documentation, only using Vector2 for cards for now