a few non-words

[helmadik]

like ΑΒΓΔΕ, ΒΕΡΓΚ. (Euclid, faulty encoding of textual notes at Perseus)

[helmadik]

I'll see if I can flatten my wordlist with your scripts, and filter out the Euclid and the weird Old Testament names.

[dspinellis]

Oh, I see, geometric point sequences by Euclid. What a fascinating journey to end in a Wordly list!

[helmadik]

yes, and 5-letter philologists (Bergk) who were badly encoded in the texts. But also weird Old Testament names that don't follow normal Greek phonology. I'll try to come up with an alternative list.

[helmadik]

I'm hereby submitting an alternate wordlist. The original list has the Euclidian ABCDE etc. words, elided words, modern editors with 5-letter names, .. These are the 5 letter words I have that don't have these problems. Does include Old Testament names. Might want to filter from your original answers list the ones that are not on my list. Apologies for the alphabetization from A to Z because I used romanization as intermediate step:-(
kuriosALT.txt

[dspinellis]

Thank you! given that this lacks frequency information I'll need to join this with the frequencies from the Perseus Project to derive the 1800 words used for setting questions. The new list contains 10863 words whereas the original about 13800 words. Do you think the new so much better than the original one that it should replace it? Alternatively we could use the new list to sanity-check the original one in order to remove non-Greek words. It would require manual reviewing of about 3000 words.

[helmadik]

My sense is that in the dirty xml there were a lot of words with apostrophes, also hyphenated words across lines. I'd suggest at least doing the sanity check on the answers file - don't much care if people try non-words in the responses (people have to type them in to see them); but given that some critical apparatus notes may proliferate and make it into the answers list, I would prioritize cleaning that one? If you can do the filtering, I'm happy to eyeball that shorter list. Although even 3000 is not a lot. It's just that it's a little harder to spot in all-caps -just more unfamiliar. I can do some batches and nominate candidates for removal:-)

[dspinellis]

If you list has no false positives, then I can use it to clean up the answers list, together with some manual cleaning.

[helmadik]

the only thing I can immediately think of, if you find words in my list not in the Perseus list, is that I have some Anna Komnena in there. But those words are all in my database as tokens with a parse (e.g. masc acc sg noun) and a dictionary entry. Should be safe.

In the full list, you can delete the words that end in T for instance. Or M (a fair amount of Latin has come in). Etc.

Edited to add: Delete ΑΔΔΕΔ ΑΡΙΣΤ ΑΦΤΕΡ BLASS, ΕΡΣΥΣ (versus) ΞΟΒΕΤ, ΞΟΝΣΤ (πολιτεία), ΞΟΡΑΣ (?) IDTLG, ΟΛΨΜΠ, ΟΤΗΕΡ, ΡΕΣΠΠ, WIGAN, WHICH, WOULD, WORDS in answers.js

By the way, I think that in a heavily inflected language, you can raise the number of words in answers.js (or lower their minimum frequency, if you will). If someone knows λόγος, they also recognize λόγον, λόγου, λόγοι, λόγων, etc.

Helma Dik Department of Classics University of Chicago

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