Open iteles opened 4 years ago
@iteles I created a "Research" task: #144 and assigned it to @th0mas
I know you had done a bit of research into this. 🔍 (what did you conclude?)
I feel that it's a good task for Tom because he is UK-based which means any products ordered online for testing will arrive much faster and he can do the software integration work too. 👨💻
Ultimately we want to have a real-time dashboard telling us exactly how much Energy we are using. That's a hardware+software challenge so the approach needs to be integrated, hence #144. 👍
@nelsonic I was in the initial stages of the research so more generic/informative for anyone who wanted to know what was possible (and certainly hadn't gone as far as researching open source solutions yet, my order was 'what's available > what's available in Portugal > Open source solutions), but to summarise my open tabs:
There are 3 possible ways of measuring:
These are the quite widely available now (when we got our first one in... 2008? there were very few choices!).
They consist of devices that either connect directly inside your electrical panel like Sense
Or (most) simply clip onto the main wiring that leaves your electrical cupboard like Loop Energy Saver (either inside it or just outside):
These usually come with apps (both desktop and smartphone) that provide features such as:
The more advanced apps also offer:
Probably still be good to have one of these to double-check individual appliances that can be plugged in, especially in a house with a lot of people where it's harder to control that no one is switching something else on just as you're trying to measure the electrical requirements of one particular appliance.
There are a number of more specialised and expensive smart plugs, like the Elgato Eve, which works with the Apple HomeKit (I imagine we could put one of these together ourselves using OSS and hardware components if we wanted to): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eve-Energy-connected-necessary-Bluetooth/dp/B01KHLWAHM
These are the lowest rung of the ladder in that they are simply apps that rely on other external equipment to do the measuring without a hardware solution of their own. They try to use the data from either smart meters or from smart plugs to patch together an overall view and are much less accurate.
These also tend to be quite market-specific because of how they hook into a country or company's specific smart meters and they're also not very sophisticated - an example is this Energy Consumption Analyzer.
Not relevant for what we're looking for.
I was curious to learn about restrictions in using the equipment across multiple countries (things we might need to pay attention to if we were building our own solution) so I dropped an email to Loop Energy to find out if their products could be used in Portugal.
I got an interesting response:
This was good news as there's nothing keeping us from having our own OSS solution. But I was curious to know what was already on the market in Portugal:
BeEnergy from Infocontrol - a software-only home monitoring system with the ability to define tariffs (and therefore calculate bills), compatible with a couple of hardware solutions to pull in data
Wibeee Home - Spanish company providing both software and hardware solutions (both plugs and full home monitoring system with clips) for energy monitoring, relatively advanced technically with an API allowing for multiple home management. They also have a decent free plan so clearly the value of their business is in the data they collect (and somewhat in hardware)
Bee2Energy - a Portuguese company which offers monitoring software for a large range of industries under the 'intelligent cities' umbrella. Their product is software-only but compatible with multiple hardware solutions, includes tariff and forecasting functionality
PierEnergy - this is a very opaque website, they seem to offer some kind of energy monitoring solution but they don't tell us which one 🤷♀️
In short, everything is very much closed source and the cost of the end of the month bill seems to be an integral feature in each solution, more so than in the international options I've seen.
@nelsonic Now that the Why, What and some initial, more general research has been captured above, I think we can close this issue entirely in favour of #144 👍
Agreed?
@iteles I don't think we can close this issue until it is captured in a Blog Post. 💭
@nelsonic Is there anything you reckon we need from this shop? https://www.efectoled.com/pt/703-comprar-smart-home
Here is my current shopping cart just over €3 short of free postage 😉 :
https://www.efectoled.com/pt/comprar-medidores-de-energia/1777-temporizador-digital-8445044009848.html https://www.efectoled.com/pt/comprar-temporizadores-programadores/1753-temporizador-analogico-compacto-con-enchufe.html
I was thinking of something like this for temporarily having by our front door at night: https://www.efectoled.com/pt/comprar-alarmes/1897-timbre-para-puertas-8445044010790.html
@iteles I would just add another Medidor controlador to reach the "free" postage threshold. 🔌 The front door motion detecting chime is more of an annoyance than anything else. 💭
Ok, will get these today 👍🏻
Why?
Monitoring electricity consumption allows us to:
But why is knowing about our electrical consumption important? The additional awareness allows us to make a conscious choice on where we can either cut our energy consumption or use it wisely. But why do this?
What?
Monitoring our energy consumption and knowing the daily, weekly and monthly consumption both in summer and in winter as well as the individual consumption of individual appliances and actions. These should be published for everyone to be encouraged to use this data, understand our actions (e.g. why we run pool filters at peak sunshine hours) and be encourage to seek out ways to reduce their energy consumption in their own homes or places they stay at next. This is great not just for the environment but for cost savings.
How?
More than 10 years ago, we had an energy monitor that we could clip around the main electrical cable coming out of our electricity meter and it would tell us the exact consumption at that point in time in kW as well as give us monthly totals and averages.
This was a fantastic way to keep track of our energy consumption and gave us real insight into the consumption of each appliance as well as the difference our actions made.
Currently our solar system (including battery) keeps track of the energy being produced and that being consumed at a high level, for example:
However, this is at a house-wide level (no granular information) and I think it would be very wise to double-check these consumption numbers as I don't think they are particularly reliable (production values are the system's specialty). Furthermore, we're still dependent on #70 for the system configuration to be completely finalised so the consumption values are not expected to be exact until then (although they do give a good overview).
The how is exactly what this issue was opened to research 🚀