nelsonic commented 3 months ago

Opening this as a placeholder for research. Need to find the best outdoor Foosball Table that balances quality, (low) maintenance and preferably low purchase cost including shipping to PT.

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

Garlando Champion Pro Professional Foosball Table Outdoor:

https://www.enerfit.pt/futebol-de-mesa-profissional-campe-o-com-varas-de-saida-longo-campo-garlando.html

https://amzn.eu/d/8ZtJcRH

Also, apparently there's a high-end for these: https://babyfoot-toulet.us/product/the-pure-grey-outdoor-design-foosball-table/

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

https://www.kickerkult.de/en/Garlando-G-500-Weatherproof/7109.2

Again, €1,037 is an absolute mountain of cash; more than a decent laptop! 💻 😬

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

The white variant is slightly cheaper at €991

https://www.kickerkult.de/en/Garlando-G-500-Weatherproof/7109.4

But in the scheme of things, when the €58 delivery cost is factored in, is ~4% diff.

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

Garlando Master Class Outdoor is €1,091:

https://www.kickerkult.de/en/Garlando-Master-Class-Outdoor/6722.1

This is definitely an upsell. 😬

But ...

"equipped with a glass-cover-plate made from security-glass."

This for me is the selling point that makes this worthwhile for outdoor use. I think the glass will protect the plying surface both from dust and dirty hands. 💭

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

There's a company in Lithuania that sells the tables a bit cheaper and crucially doesn't charge a fortune for shipping:

https://www.foos-shop.com/lauko-salygoms.html

E.g: Garlando Open Air Football Table

https://www.foos-shop.com/lauko-salygoms/garlando-open-air-football-table.html

For our needs, I think this table would more than suffice! 💭

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

Tried contacting food-shop (Latvia) yesterday... still no reply.

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

Got canned reply from Latvia "Foos shop" ... doesn't inspire much confidence. 💭

Garlando Master Class Evo Outdoor Available on Amazon DE with VAT removed at source for biz:

https://amzn.eu/d/akUQ90U

€1,073.52 is still a mountain of cash 💰 for an occasional use item. 💭 but this table is waaaay better than anything I've ever played on. And would be amaze to play on with kids and visitors. 🤩

Hmmm ... 🤔

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

€991 is an eyewatering amount of cash to burn on a foosball table ... https://www.kickerkult.de/en/Garlando-G-500-Weatherproof/7109.4

This is definitely not a financial investment ... 🙃

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

@iteles you commented that we don't need a foosball table, and to a certain extent I agree. But then we don't need anything really ... we can be minimalist hobos/monks own nothing and be happy. 😊

A foosball table, like a ping pong table, surf board or kayak are all nice-to-have leisure items that nobody needs.

A game that encourages getting up off the sofa, outdoors in the fresh air and playing with friends is a fantastic way to get children away from screens IMO.

nelsonic commented 3 months ago

https://www.sport-thieme.com/Leisure-games/Table-Football/art=2665102

iteles commented 2 months ago

It feels like it will be crowded in the new area with this. And it's a grand we could spend on other things that would be a bigger bang for the buck. If it was €300, I wouldn't raise an objection, but it's not. I don't think it's worth the money given the vast array of other outdoor activities we have when what we need is run-around space and it's a noisy activity too.

But it's your vision and I know there are zero arguments to deter you in getting this done. I'm sure it'll look amazing at the end 👌

nelsonic commented 2 months ago

Addressing each of your objections:

Yes, "a grand" is a lot to spend, as I've said above. ⬆️ But if it gets kids outside in the morning sunshine and thus prevents myopia ... 👀 Think of how much money your parents and you have spent on glasses & contact lenses over the years... 👓 💸 🔥 The lifecycle costs for the average myopic person is $20k. Yes, it adds up! 💰 And that's not factoring the wasted time of having to visit the Optometrist each year. ⌛ it's been proven that being indoors (away from sunlight) is the main cause: youtu.be/6OZwGzWQAfQ So, I think that spending even TEN Grand on something that kids love playing outdoors is worth it to avoid having eye trouble later in life. Please (re)watch: "Myopia: A Global Epidemic" youtu.be/IeCDXLdKPyU "Myopia: A Treatable Epidemic" youtu.be/TrTzBzETdls

Obviously if it was €300 we wouldn't be having this discussion and would have already bought it! I opened this issue to capture the research. I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

"Noisy Activity" - Maybe the with the "old" style balls, but with Cork Balls the noise is cut by 90%. https://www.kickerkult.de/en/Cork-ball-ecru/7045.1

While I agree that we need more "run-around space" ... https://github.com/dwyl/phase-three/issues/116 🙏 We also need more in-the-city outdoor social activities protected from rain. i.e. all-year daylight rain or shine!

nelsonic commented 2 months ago

The Myopia Pandemic: Why Short-sightedness Is Rapidly Increasing Worldwide | ENDEVR Documentary:

https://youtu.be/MBAa97MRGC8

nelsonic commented 2 months ago

Myopia is hella lame. 😒😭

nelsonic commented 1 month ago

Outdoor time is ~~good~~ essential for your kids' eyesight. Here's why: https://text.npr.org/1250555639 via: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40342541

Note: top comment is a “duh” sarcastic one. But, sadly, most parents haven’t understood the importance!

dwyl / studio

Outdoor Foosball Table #55

"equipped with a glass-cover-plate made from security-glass."