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reword "EP Lib" and "EP Lab" in header? #19

Closed craigberry closed 4 years ago

craigberry commented 4 years ago

Can we simply say "Library" and "Laboratory" in the header? It would only add 3 more characters in toto and for me would be much clearer, especially when one is deep into one of the various tools rather than looking at the top-level page. I didn't know what EP Lib and EP Lab meant the first time I saw them and I already know a fair amount about the things they point to. "EP" is redundant since everything here is related to EarlyPrint. "Lab" is a common enough abbreviation for laboratory, so people would probably guess the link doesn't take them to a site about Labrador retrievers, but "Lib" is not a known abbreviation for library, at least outside of techie circles.

jfloewen commented 4 years ago

I like this idea, but wiser heads should prevail.

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Can we simply say "Library" and "Laboratory" in the header? It would only add 3 more characters in toto and for me would be much clearer, especially when one is deep into one of the various tools rather than looking at the top-level page. I didn't know what EP Lib and EP Lab meant the first time I saw them and I already know a fair amount about the things they point to. "EP" is redundant since everything here is related to EarlyPrint. "Lab" is a common enough abbreviation for laboratory, so people would probably guess the link doesn't take them to a site about Labrador retrievers, but "Lib" is not a known abbreviation for library, at least outside of techie circles.

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jrladd commented 4 years ago

This sounds good to me. I think it should be ”Library” and “Lab,” since “Laboratory” is a bit wordy and everyone knows what Lab stands for. We already made a similar change to the URLs along the same lines ( earlyprint.org/lab instead of earlyprint.org/eplab).

In fact, this raises a couple questions about consistency. Should we be using library.earlyprint.org instead of texts.earlyprint.org? And, should we be using subdomains or directories across the board for the top level sites? So either “earlyprint.org/lab” and “earlyprint.org/library” OR “ lab.earlyprint.org” and “library.earlyprint.org”? I would prefer the first option (directories), since a subdomain will break the Jekyll organizing scheme for the Lab tools.

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I like this idea, but wiser heads should prevail.

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craigberry commented 4 years ago

As far as I know, you can't put directories in DNS, so there would be no way to specify that the different sites run from different servers. I have no objection to putting the Library at library.earlyprint.org, but we've been using texts.earlyprint.org for a couple of years and have announced it in various places, so we should keep it in DNS and pointing to the same place for the foreseeable future. Which probably means maintaining certificates for both subdomains.

jrladd commented 4 years ago

Okay, this is a good reason for sticking with a directory for the lab and a subdomain for the library. I don’t regard changing to library.earlyprint.org as essential, and I agree that we should retain texts.earlyprint to avoid breaking links. Do others feel its worth going through the work of changing over? Or should we leave it as is?

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spenteco commented 4 years ago

I like the idea of leaving things as they are now (the lab at earlyprint.org/lab) . . .

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jrladd commented 4 years ago

I'm glad we had the conversation about URLs, but I agree that it's not worth changing at the moment. I've changed "EP Lib" to "Library" and "EP Lab" to "Lab" in the site header.