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Add ability to import and render the SolderMask layers #225

Open JimBach-IMMI opened 1 month ago

JimBach-IMMI commented 1 month ago

kicadStepUp is a really nice tool . . . love it . . . except that it can't import/render the SolderMask. It's important to be able to verify that solder mask is open where you need it open (such as Test Points), and it's nice to have the solder mask present when you are trying to do a photo-realistic 'render' for reports and presentations.

Please add the ability to import/render the Solder Mask, even if it means exporting it from KiCAD in DXF format (like the Silk Screens).

Thanks (in advance)

easyw commented 1 month ago

@JimBach-IMMI you can already export the SolderMask in DXF and load it using the same button for the Silks Screen. Then just rename the shape to SolderMask and change its color. Moreover kv8.99 seems is supporting also Solder Mask export

JimBach-IMMI commented 1 month ago

Thanks for the quick response to this. OK, I was pondering trying that, but I wasn’t sure if it was going to overwrite the existing SilkScreen. Glad to know that it won’t . . . I’ll give it a try. How does the software know what “Z” level (height above the bare board) to put the Silks and Solder Masks? Generally Solder Mask needs to be above Copper, and Silks needs to be above Solder Mask.

Perhaps the “AddSilks” button could be renamed “AddSilksSolderMask” or something . . . or have 2 separate buttons. That would make it much more obvious to newbie users (like me) that you CAN get the Solder Mask that way😊

So, why is it that the SilkScreen and SolderMask have to be imported via DXFs and can’t be sucked-in from the _PCB file (like board and copper)??

Also . . . What is “kv8.99”??

Thanks Again,

Jim Bach | IMMI | Principal Electrical Engineer 18881 IMMI Way | Westfield, IN 46074 Office: 317-867-8119 | Mobile: 317-507-6724 imminet.comhttp://www.imminet.com/

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JimBach-IMMI commented 1 month ago

OK . . . I exported ALL of the KiCAD layers to DXF and then tried using AddSilks to bring-in the Solder Mask layers: @.***

And StepUp created: @. --renamed--> @.

But when I select the new top solder mask I see: @.***

The mask file (also see attached) looks like: @.***

It’s almost like StepUp put the mask where the openings in the mask are supposed to go . . . the inverse of what I want. Is there some option I’m missing (either in KiCAD when exporting to DXF or in StepUp)??

Regards,

Jim Bach | IMMI | Principal Electrical Engineer 18881 IMMI Way | Westfield, IN 46074 Office: 317-867-8119 | Mobile: 317-507-6724 imminet.comhttp://www.imminet.com/

From: Jim Bach Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 8:32 AM To: easyw/kicadStepUpMod @.>; easyw/kicadStepUpMod @.> Cc: Mention @.***> Subject: RE: [easyw/kicadStepUpMod] Add ability to import and render the SolderMask layers (Issue #225)

Thanks for the quick response to this. OK, I was pondering trying that, but I wasn’t sure if it was going to overwrite the existing SilkScreen. Glad to know that it won’t . . . I’ll give it a try. How does the software know what “Z” level (height above the bare board) to put the Silks and Solder Masks? Generally Solder Mask needs to be above Copper, and Silks needs to be above Solder Mask.

Perhaps the “AddSilks” button could be renamed “AddSilksSolderMask” or something . . . or have 2 separate buttons. That would make it much more obvious to newbie users (like me) that you CAN get the Solder Mask that way😊

So, why is it that the SilkScreen and SolderMask have to be imported via DXFs and can’t be sucked-in from the _PCB file (like board and copper)??

Also . . . What is “kv8.99”??

Thanks Again,

Jim Bach | IMMI | Principal Electrical Engineer 18881 IMMI Way | Westfield, IN 46074 Office: 317-867-8119 | Mobile: 317-507-6724 imminet.comhttp://www.imminet.com/

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@JimBach-IMMIhttps://github.com/JimBach-IMMI you can already export the SolderMask in DXF and load it using the same button for the Silks Screen. Then just rename the shape to SolderMask and change its color. Moreover kv8.99 seems is supporting also Soler Mask export

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JimBach-IMMI commented 1 month ago

I did some digging . . . in KiCAD’s export menu there’s an option: @.***

So, I regenerated the DXFs again . . . Now when I import the Solder Masks I see: @.***

And reimporting the Silk Screens I now see: @.***

☹

Regards,

Jim Bach | IMMI | Principal Electrical Engineer 18881 IMMI Way | Westfield, IN 46074 Office: 317-867-8119 | Mobile: 317-507-6724 imminet.comhttp://www.imminet.com/

From: Jim Bach Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 9:20 AM To: 'easyw/kicadStepUpMod' @.>; 'easyw/kicadStepUpMod' @.> Cc: 'Mention' @.***> Subject: RE: [easyw/kicadStepUpMod] Add ability to import and render the SolderMask layers (Issue #225)

OK . . . I exported ALL of the KiCAD layers to DXF and then tried using AddSilks to bring-in the Solder Mask layers: @.***

And StepUp created: @.--renamed--> @.

But when I select the new top solder mask I see: @.***

The mask file (also see attached) looks like: @.***

It’s almost like StepUp put the mask where the openings in the mask are supposed to go . . . the inverse of what I want. Is there some option I’m missing (either in KiCAD when exporting to DXF or in StepUp)??

Regards,

Jim Bach | IMMI | Principal Electrical Engineer 18881 IMMI Way | Westfield, IN 46074 Office: 317-867-8119 | Mobile: 317-507-6724 imminet.comhttp://www.imminet.com/

From: Jim Bach Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 8:32 AM To: easyw/kicadStepUpMod @.**@.>>; easyw/kicadStepUpMod @.**@.>> Cc: Mention @.**@.>> Subject: RE: [easyw/kicadStepUpMod] Add ability to import and render the SolderMask layers (Issue #225)

Thanks for the quick response to this. OK, I was pondering trying that, but I wasn’t sure if it was going to overwrite the existing SilkScreen. Glad to know that it won’t . . . I’ll give it a try. How does the software know what “Z” level (height above the bare board) to put the Silks and Solder Masks? Generally Solder Mask needs to be above Copper, and Silks needs to be above Solder Mask.

Perhaps the “AddSilks” button could be renamed “AddSilksSolderMask” or something . . . or have 2 separate buttons. That would make it much more obvious to newbie users (like me) that you CAN get the Solder Mask that way😊

So, why is it that the SilkScreen and SolderMask have to be imported via DXFs and can’t be sucked-in from the _PCB file (like board and copper)??

Also . . . What is “kv8.99”??

Thanks Again,

Jim Bach | IMMI | Principal Electrical Engineer 18881 IMMI Way | Westfield, IN 46074 Office: 317-867-8119 | Mobile: 317-507-6724 imminet.comhttp://www.imminet.com/

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easyw commented 1 month ago

@JimBach-IMMI the SolderMask is exported in 'negative' way. You may obtain the real Solder Mask with a 'Cut' from the pcb face. Anyway kv8.99 (kicad version 8.99) is able to export tracks, pads, silks and solder mask https://forum.kicad.info/t/post-v8-new-features-and-development-news/48614/29

JimBach-IMMI commented 1 month ago

Guess I’m not sure what you mean a “’Cut’ from the PCB face” . . . I don’t normally use FreeCAD . . . just using it to get from KiCAD to SolidWorks (STEP). I’m tempted to install 8.99 . . . but scared at the same time . . .

Regards,

Jim Bach | IMMI | Principal Electrical Engineer 18881 IMMI Way | Westfield, IN 46074 Office: 317-867-8119 | Mobile: 317-507-6724 imminet.comhttp://www.imminet.com/

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@JimBach-IMMIhttps://github.com/JimBach-IMMI the SolderMask is exported in 'negative' way. You may obtain the real Solder Mask with a 'Cut' from the pcb face. Anyway kv8.99 (kicad version 8.99) is able to export tracks, pads, silks and solder mask https://forum.kicad.info/t/post-v8-new-features-and-development-news/48614/29https://forum.kicad.info/t/post-v8-new-features-and-development-news/48614/29

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