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Include a C wrapper in TessBaseAPI (baseapi.cpp/.h) #362

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Several applications can only use C function calls in their interfacing with 
Tesseract. But according to http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/ReadMe, 
the DLL interface will no longer be supported in Tesseract 3.0.

This request asks to include a C wrapper to a global recognize class object in 
the TessBaseAPI. Basically, it calls for moving the C wrapper from the obsolete 
tessdll.cpp/.h to inside the baseapi.cpp/.h.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by nguyen...@gmail.com on 26 Sep 2010 at 4:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I would like to add my support for this. Specifically, it is needed for JNA but 
would also help when linking with MinGW, assuming the official build is done 
with Visual C++.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 26 Sep 2010 at 5:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
and I'm a Delphi Developer who was using a wrapper made for Delphi that was 
BASED on the C wrapper from version 2.04 - now I'm stuck because this new 
version (3.0) doesn't work with it :( 
Can I try to import all the functions from baseapi.h? Will that work? I'm in 
over my head on this particular issue...

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 11:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I know nothing about Delphi but it's probably similar to the Java situation 
because of name mangling. If you want to interface directly to the native 
library without some additional native connector in the middle, name mangling 
will be a barrier. Java can possibly work around it with the help of JNAerator 
but I don't know if an equivalent exists for Delphi.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 15 Oct 2010 at 8:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Can you guys help me out with something? I had a Delphi wrapper that was based 
on the C Wrapper - it utilized a 'Recognize' class etc etc.
But now with version 3, as you indicate above, we can't use it.
Instead I have to import the API functions from the DLL - if I can get that 
right, then surely I will succeed, but I don't know which API functions to 
call, when, and in what order.
Please could somebody assist :)

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 19 Oct 2010 at 3:34

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
This would also allow dynamic loading of the library with dlopen/LoadLibrary. 
With C++ classes this is quite nasty.

I noticed however, that the tessdll wrapper code is still there (in the vs2008 
directory) and changes were made to it between 2.04 and 3.00. Does it still 
work? In a short test, I could not get any results.

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 21 Oct 2010 at 2:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I also couldn't get any results from it, but the main .h file remains unchanged 
from version 2.04, so the hope was to simply just use the same wrapper as 
before, replace the DLL and add the *new* combined eng language file in 
/tessdata but the result of the OCR read is '~' which usually happens if 
there's too much noise in an image or if I've given it the wrong pixel format 
or something. Best would be to use 'the API' - but there a bajillion functions 
in there and I need an example of what to set, when.

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 21 Oct 2010 at 2:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The call sequence is something like
tess.Init(...);
tess.SetVariable(...);
tess.SetImage(...);
tess.SetRectangle(...);
tess.Recognize(...);
tess.GetXXXText(...);

The only thing I could not figure out is how to use the Recognize(struct 
ETEXT_DESC* monitor) method correctly (with monitor != NULL), i.e. how to get 
the initial monitor variable.

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 22 Oct 2010 at 8:17

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
troplin
Thanks for that,  but I wonder if it's enough to proceed on. 
Do you know if there is there a document somewhere that confirms the call 
sequence?

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 22 Oct 2010 at 10:01

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I have that from the comments in the source code header file.

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 22 Oct 2010 at 11:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
This is a good idea - who wants to do it?

Original comment by joregan on 24 Oct 2010 at 10:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
>>This is a good idea - who wants to do it?
I would definitely do it in Delphi if I knew what to do - what needs to be 
called etc etc.
I think DependencyWalker can show you the available function calls in a DLL and 
the name to use etc.

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 25 Oct 2010 at 10:31

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
It involves writing C++ rather than any other language. I'm probably more 
familiar with C++ than the other people requesting this but I'm probably the 
least knowledgable about Tesseract itself. I'm also quite busy. If no one else 
steps up, I could give it a shot but I can't promise it'll be done quickly.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 25 Oct 2010 at 10:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I can help testing it for JNA (using Tess4J).

Original comment by nguyen...@gmail.com on 25 Oct 2010 at 2:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
>>This is a good idea - who wants to do it?
> I would definitely do it in Delphi if I knew what to do 

Fail. Delphi will not work for this, even if it wasn't a single-platform 
solution where a cross-platform solution is what's wanted.

Original comment by joregan on 26 Oct 2010 at 9:02

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
>Fail. Delphi will not work for this, even if it wasn't a single-platform 
solution where a cross-platform solution is what's wanted.
Then I'm rather trapped. I need to get version 3 working in Delphi and I have 
no idea what to try and call in the DLL and in what order etc.
I think if the C wrapper was working like it was in version 2.04, then I could 
just call the same functions as I did in 2.04.

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 26 Oct 2010 at 9:17

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The C Wrapper should provide the same functionality as the C++ API:
- Every method of the C++ class should have an equvalent C function
- The C function should call the C++ method and nothing more.
- Every C function should take an additional parameter, which represents the 
object itself (like the this pointer in C++)
- The type of this additional object parameter is a transparent data structure, 
which either contains the actual C++ object, or is typecasted to it.

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:37

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I could do this in my spare time. I have not that much time however, so I 
cannot say until when.

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Man I'm desperate for this... I need to know, was the 'wrapper' for version 
2.04 able to let you set config settings as well? That could actually solve my 
problem and possibly make my day/week/month. For example it would help a great 
deal if I could tell  stupid Tessaract that my font is mono-spaced.

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 29 Oct 2010 at 5:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
actually I don't to rebuild the version 2.04. The code for this old wrapper is 
still here but it does not work anymore because the internals of the engine 
have changed.

What I want is a new wrapper that should replicate the C++ BaseAPI as close as 
possible. This is the only solution that is really future-proof.

In version 2.04 there is no elegant way to set config settings from the API, 
but I think I can remember that the API used a special config file somewhere in 
the TESSDATA folder (named api_config or similar). You could try to modify this.

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 29 Oct 2010 at 7:01

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I changed my mind and I wont do it (reasons see in the closed case #386).

So I stick with version 2.04

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 1 Nov 2010 at 9:31

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I just had an idea. Maybe we could use SWIG. Not that creating this wrapper by 
hand would be a huge amount of work but having it done automatically would be 
nice if it does a good enough job. I've never used SWIG before but I've found a 
separate branch that has the C wrapper feature, which was developed as a GSOC 
project. It hasn't been merged back to trunk yet but it's not too ancient. 
Could be worth a look.

http://swig.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/swig/branches/gsoc2008-maciekd

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 1 Nov 2010 at 9:56

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Troplin>
That's a shame, the community still needs this, and, I don't think you've 
conclusively determined what you say in case 386 - the case was closed as 
'invalid'. Anyways, I hope you change your mind.
As for me, I don't care which version I use, 2.04 or 3, as long as I can get 
better results than I am currently getting with the 2.04 wrapper - such as the 
ability to include settings. Perhaps you can help write a proper API wrapper 
for 2.04?

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 1 Nov 2010 at 1:40

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
> Comment 22 by rfwoolf, Today (2 hours ago)
> Troplin>
> That's a shame, the community still needs this, and, I don't think you've 
> conclusively determined what you say in case 386 - the case was closed as 
> 'invalid'. Anyways, I hope you change your mind.

I'll consider this a vote to reopen.

Original comment by joregan on 1 Nov 2010 at 4:36

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The actual writing of the wrapper is not the problem. That's made in no time. 
But there is a lot more to figure out for me, as I don't really know how this 
google code works, how I can contribute and so on.

But I'm still here, and since my other request is not conclusively closed, I'll 
see what I can do.

Original comment by trop...@gmail.com on 2 Nov 2010 at 4:17

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
@troplin:

I think it would good to move discussion about wrapper to Tesseract Developers 
forum/mailing list http://groups.google.com/group/tesseract-dev 

Original comment by zde...@gmail.com on 2 Nov 2010 at 7:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
So I had a go with SWIG just now. I ran it against baseapi.h, pageiterator.h 
and resultiterator.h. It generated three files, none of which are very pretty, 
but tesseract_proxy.h does look very promising so I've uploaded it for you all 
to look at. I think this could be exactly what we need. I'm not sure when I'll 
have a chance to actually try this stuff out but if anyone's interested, I'll 
upload the other files.

It's worth mentioning that one warning was generated but at least it was only 
one. :)

pageiterator.h:73: Warning(503): Can't wrap 'operator =' unless renamed to a 
valid identifier.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 16 Nov 2010 at 11:36

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Any news on this? I'm officially offering to pay for this now (and of course 
the results must be shared with the community).
I'm offering USD100 -- that's all I can really afford, I'm a South African and 
the South African Rand currency is rather weak.
If you're interested, contact me so we can arrange it.

What worries me however, is that after we finally have a wrapper, I still need 
to write the 'Delphi' wrapper which calls the C wrapper - which I don't really 
know how to do, so this would be like paying 100USD for only half the solution, 
but I'm trapped here, I have no choice, my job and reputation is at stake ! :)

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 2:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Here are the other files that SWIG produced. This may actually be sufficient to 
use, I just haven't had a chance to try it. See if it works for you. I like the 
fact that it's been automatically generated, so what you get is a consistent 
mapping of the entire interface to C.

I produced these files from Jimmy's github repo a month ago. It hasn't changed 
since but I don't know if there have been other changes elsewhere.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 3:10

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I can feel your desperation so let me expand on that. I don't know Delphi but I 
would like to look into this further myself. While I appreciate the incentive, 
I am already bogged down with work and my wife is due to give birth any day now!

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 3:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Thanks for these files - I'm not even sure what to do with them...
Can you explain what these files are all about? For example, what does 'proxy' 
mean in this case? And surely we only need 1 file for the wrapper?

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 3:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
SWIG is a program for automatically generating wrappers around C/C++ libraries 
for other languages like Java, PHP, Python, whatever. As a GSoC project, 
someone got it to also create C wrappers around C++ libraries. Just what we 
need. Unfortunately it was never merged upstream and I don't know why. I think 
I read that some corner cases weren't handled properly but I'm hoping it works 
well enough for us.

The "wrap" files are the magic that makes SWIG work. The "proxy" files present 
this magic in the form of an interface we can use. I think you build all these 
files as part of a regular Tesseract build and then use the functions provided 
by tesseract_proxy.h. This file is somewhat readable. I don't know how to use 
the C++ API yet but the C equivalent is something like this.

TessBaseAPI *foo = new_TessBaseAPI();
TessBaseAPI_SetRectangle(foo, 1, 2, 3, 4);

Looking at tesseract_proxy.h more closely, I see some comments like "aaaaaa" 
and "whoa" which are a little worrying! But on the other hand, only one warning 
was emitted so maybe it's okay. If there is a problem, maybe I could contact 
the GSoC student but only after I've tried it myself.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 3:45

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Chewi> Thank you for this. Can I be a further pain and just ask you to clarify 
this for me...
"I think you build all these files as part of a regular Tesseract build and 
then use the functions provided by tesseract_proxy.h"
You're saying, you take these files, and then re-build the DLL? Do you need 
Visual Studio, or C++ or what? I am a Delphi Developer, so I'll need someone to 
do this for me.
I guess this goes back to my offer.
If nobody can offer to help me soon, I'll have to go to elance or a freelancer 
website and get somebody to do this.
Oh, and if anybody *DOES* decide to re-build the DLL, please do me a big favour 
and make sure it doesn't require any dependancies, like the C++ runtime 
distributable? The whole problem with version 2.04 is that my wrapper for the 
DLL keeps on hard-crashing the application and on some PC's I get no 
functionality at all - just a hardcrash... very worrisome :p

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 3:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Yes, you'll need to rebuild it with Visual C++. I'm not sure if you're more 
afraid of C++ itself or just having to pay for Visual C++ but the Express 
version is free. That's what I use.

Statically linking the C++ runtime is bad practise in my opinion but I do come 
from a Linux background, which is a bit different.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 4:05

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Chewi> as you have generated the wrapper files, could be send us your interface 
file as well something like (tesseract.i)

Original comment by FreeT...@gmail.com on 1 Jan 2011 at 12:48

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Sure.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 1 Jan 2011 at 2:28

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Chewi> Many thank. So your tesseract.i is for tesseract2 not 3. Rite?

Original comment by FreeT...@gmail.com on 4 Jan 2011 at 7:07

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
No, all this is for v3.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 4 Jan 2011 at 7:26

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Finally, got it working though having numerous edges awaiting for smoothening
>7z x swig.7z
>cd swig
>python setup.py clean
>python setup.py build
>sudo python setup.py install --prefix=/usr
>python test.py
Result= The (quick) [brown] {fox} jumps!
Over the $43,456.78 <lazy> #90 dog
& duck/goose, as 12.5% of E-mail
from aspammer@website.com is spam.
Der ,,schnelle” braune Fuchs springt
uber den faulen Hund. Le renard brun
<<rapide» saute par-dessus le chien
paresseux. La volpe marrone rapida
salta sopra il cane pigro. El zorro
marrén répido salta sobre el perro
perezoso. A raposa marrom répida
salta sobre o cio preguieoso.

Have fun.

Original comment by FreeT...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 6:32

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
 rfwoolf> see if comment 44 could be of any help to u?

>Any news on this? I'm officially offering to pay for this now (and of course 
the >results must be shared with the community).
>I'm offering USD100 -- that's all I can really afford, I'm a South African and 
the >South African Rand currency is rather weak.
>If you're interested, contact me so we can arrange it.

Original comment by FreeT...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 6:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Thanks FreeToGo. I hope I'm not setting myself up for disappointment by getting 
a little excited - I've been through a lot in this project waiting to be able 
to use the new version of Tesseract in Delphi.
Firstly, "Finally, got it working though having numerous edges awaiting for 
smoothening" -- what exactly do you mean by that?
Secondly...
I'm not at a proper PC at the moment so I can't see what's in your swig.7z 
attachment, as I understand it we need a DLL that can accept C function calls 
and thus has a C wrapper. Then I can translate the C function calls ("C 
Wrapper") in Delphi so that I can call them using Delphi.
I *think* I also need the DLL to be 'statically linked' so that the client PC 
that gets this DLL (which are all running Windows) don't need anything EXTRA - 
just deploy the DLL, and my EXE and off you go.
What exactly is it that you've done, and I apologise for my ignorance.
Thanks :D

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 7:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
svn version (as of today) attached

Original comment by FreeT...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 9:39

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
It had occurred to me that we could just go straight from C++ to Java or 
whatever with SWIG but that would probably still hit the MSVC/MinGW 
compatibility issue. I'm not sure if I care about that anymore though. Anyone 
using MinGW should be capable of building their own copy of Tesseract. SWIG 
doesn't support Delphi though.

Anyway, I'm glad you got this working. Did it manage to map the API cleanly to 
Python? It seemed to have a couple of minor problems with C.

Original comment by JerseyChewi@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 10:02

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
"SWIG doesn't support Delphi though." -- no of course not, but as per the very 
first comment of this thread: "Several applications can only use C function 
calls in their interfacing with Tesseract". In order to use Delphi with 
Tesseract, we use C function calls of the DLL. The whole problem has been that 
the old 'C Wrapper' of version 2 has not been brought forward properly to 
version 3. Thus there's no way I can use this tesseract in Delphi - same goes 
for a couple of other people.

Original comment by rfwo...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 10:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
rtwoolf>which version of Delphi u are using? OS? probably xp 

Original comment by FreeT...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 12:19