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FB Like, Twitter Follow and Google +1 buttons #126

Open quintesse opened 12 years ago

quintesse commented 12 years ago

Could we find a place for those somewhere? It will make it very easy for people to immediately show their appreciation (and basically they will be reminded each time they visit the page).

https://dev.twitter.com/docs/follow-button

http://www.google.com/webmasters/+1/button/

http://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/plugins/like-box/

quintesse commented 12 years ago

I know we already have buttons that link to Google+ and Twitter, but it's not the same, you'd still have to click on it, and then again "like", "follow" or "+1" on that page. If you've not done it the first time most likely you won't do it the second time around. These buttons will remind you each time that there's something you could do.

quintesse commented 11 years ago

Btw, look at the ones we use for the web runner site: http://try.ceylon-lang.org They're the ones I would like to add because they show interesting information: first they show if you're already following and you can do so with a single click. At the same time the G+ for example shows you who of your friends is following as well which make it more interesting.

quintesse commented 11 years ago

We just need someone with "sense of style" to see how we can integrate them into the design of the site.

quintesse commented 9 years ago

I was thinking about some kind of side-bar that floats to the left of the page if you have enough space and collapses to one of those new-fangled side-tabs that you can click on to expand/collapse when there isn't.

quintesse commented 9 years ago

@FroMage isn't there someone in RedHat we could ask to do this?

lucaswerkmeister commented 9 years ago

By the way, please use Social Share Privacy to prevent FB et al. from tracking everyone who visits our website.

quintesse commented 9 years ago

I understand, but that does defeat most of the purpose of those buttons. You want the user to see how many people already liked your page, it's a psychological effect. I mean the whole purpose of those buttons is "to be social". That they are tracking that people (generic hits) are visiting our website is not something we would mind sharing, right? And at that site you link to I don't see them saying that they can track you specifically, or can they?

lucaswerkmeister commented 9 years ago

I disagree. The main purpose of these buttons, for me, is to not be there, because I’m not interested in them, and I see zero reason why Facebook should know which sites on ceylon-lang.org I’ve visited. (Of course they track me specifically – at least if I’m logged in, and probably IP-based if I’m not. In the case of a Like button I assume the text has to change depending on whether I already liked the link or not.) If I was actually interested in that feature, I’m sure I wouldn’t mind the extra click.

lucaswerkmeister commented 9 years ago

Facebook tracks you even if you opt out

tombentley commented 9 years ago

they can track you specifically

Get real! Google, Facebook (etc etc) make money from selling ads. I fully expect them to use those buttons to follow me across sites in an effort to serve me up more relevant ads. Even if I'm not logged in. Even if I've not got an account with their service. They don't need to know who I am to know I was just visiting a site looking at xy, so serve up ads about xyz. After all, why wouldn't they do this, since it's in their financial interests to do so?

quintesse commented 9 years ago

Well I've got Ad Block so I don't know if they're succeeding at finding more relevant ads for me ^^

But yes, given the fact that other sites might now you're logged into FB or not it's obvious they can. But just like with ads I think that if you really care about that it's up to you (and partly up to the law) to make sure they can't or only when and how you want.

Those buttons are everywhere now and serve a real and useful purpose for the sites displaying them and I'd argue even for the people visiting them. If we're going to put them behind privacy buttons we might just as well get rid of them, nobody is going to click them.

lucaswerkmeister commented 9 years ago

serve a real and useful purpose for the sites displaying them

Don’t we have Google Analytics for that?

lucaswerkmeister commented 9 years ago

For comparison, none of Scala, Kotlin, Dart, Python, Go, or Rust have these integration buttons. They simply don’t belong on a programming language’s website IMO.

quintesse commented 9 years ago

Well actually several of them do have buttons to the major social platforms, they are not "live" buttons showing numbers or your "like status", indeed, but saying that those social buttons have no place on a programming language website is obviously false.

lucaswerkmeister commented 9 years ago

They have styled links to their social media pages. That’s fine, of course that belongs there. What doesn’t belong on a programming language website is “share this article on Facebook”, with a page counter and user tracker.

I thought that you wanted to add the latter kind of button. If you only want to link to our other pages, that’s fine.

quintesse commented 9 years ago

No, I was proposing the ones we have on the Web Runner site (which I know you won't like either), they are not "share this on facebook" buttons, but they do show if you +1'd, liked or followed.

lucaswerkmeister commented 9 years ago

You guessed right, I dislike those too :)

Simple, ordinary links to the profiles should be enough IMO.

tombentley commented 7 years ago

Honestly, I just don't see the point in this. Isn't the world over these stupid social media buttons now? Can we just close this?

quintesse commented 7 years ago

I don't agree they are "over" this. Not as long as we obviously still have a way to go to make Ceylon reach the public eye. Seems to me that every tiny bit helps.