[Mac] [Safari 4] [Snow Leopard] Gears not working Safari 4 - Snow Leopard

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What steps will reproduce the problem?
1.Install the latest seed of Snow Leopard with Safari 4 Beta 
2.Install the latest Gears safari.  
3.Restart safari.

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
Expected: Gears should work , Safari Menu should have Google Gears Safari
in Safari menu. 

Actual: Gears is listed in installed plugins, but does not show up in the menu.

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?
Platform:
  Mac OS X Version 10.6 (Build 10A286) - Snow Leopard
  Processor: 4 Intel 2.66 GHz
  RAM: 1024 MB

Gears:
  Gears version: 0.5.15.0

Installed Browsers:
  Safari: 4 Public Beta (6530.1)

Please provide any additional information below.
No errors are reported in the console, gears.google.com does not show Gears
installed after installing.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by gears.te...@gmail.com on 7 Mar 2009 at 2:49

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I want to clarify a couple things.

1.  What happens when you go to http://gears.google.com?
   a) Does it show Gears as being installed?
   b) What version does it show?

2.  What happens when you try to enable offline Gmail?

My quick reading of this bug is that the menu item for Gears is not showing up. 
 That 
would be a bug but it would also be different than Gears not working at all.  

Original comment by j...@chromium.org on 9 Mar 2009 at 11:17

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1. If we go to gears.google.com it does not show any thing, attached is the 
screen shot of the same.

If we go to : 
http://code.google.com/apis/gears/samples/hello_world_database.html
Following is the message :
Could not create database: Result of expression 'google.gears.factory.create' 
[undefined] is not a function.
Also click on the button for file picker does not work, 
Error using Geolocation API: Result of expression 'google.gears.factory.create' 
[undefined] is not a function.
Could not create local server: Result of expression 
'google.gears.factory.create' [undefined] is not a function.
Could not create local server: Result of expression 
'google.gears.factory.create' [undefined] is not a function.

2. If we Enable offline for Gmail, attached gmail screen is displayed. if 
suggested to install gears.

Original comment by gears.te...@gmail.com on 16 Mar 2009 at 6:21

Attachments:

• [Screenshot of Gears.google.com.png](https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-attachments/gears/issue-847/comment-2/Screenshot of Gears.google.com.png)
• [Screenshot on Plugins installed.png](https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-attachments/gears/issue-847/comment-2/Screenshot on Plugins installed.png)
• [GMail Screenshot .png](https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-attachments/gears/issue-847/comment-2/GMail Screenshot .png)

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Gears won't even install with Snow Leopard. Trying this with Gears 0.5.22.0, 
the installer 
gives the following error:

Google Gears is not compatible with Mac OS X versions later than Leopard (10.5).

Original comment by andres.d...@gmail.com on 10 Jul 2009 at 4:08

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Deleting the Installation check from inside the Gears pkg file allows Gears to 
install on Snow Leopard and shows 
in Safari's Menu (Google Gears Settings) however no sites are listed, and I get 
the following error if using the 
Database Demo:

Could not create database: Result of expression 'google.gears.factory.create' 
[undefined] is not a function.

Safari 4.0.3 (6531.9), Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6 Build 10A432

Original comment by beau...@gmail.com on 26 Aug 2009 at 1:35

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get message: "Google Gears is not compatible with Mac OS X versions later than 
Leopard (10.5)" BUMMER!!!

Original comment by jpb...@gmail.com on 31 Aug 2009 at 9:34

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Snow Leopard and Safari 4 introduced some changes which are incompatible with 
Gears.  
Apple made these changes to improve the security of their OS and of Safari.  
While we 
continue to talk to Apple about the issue there is no workaround for us at this 
time.

Gears continues to work with Firefox on Mac OS X.

Original comment by j...@chromium.org on 31 Aug 2009 at 2:40

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Gears installer is completly incompatible with snow leopard : "Google Gears is 
not 
compatible with Mac OS X versions later than Leopard (10.5)". 

Original comment by clawf...@gmail.com on 1 Sep 2009 at 3:35

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Please raise the priority level, this is a showstopper for every SSB user.

Original comment by rapposel...@gmail.com on 1 Sep 2009 at 6:49

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Otherwise, push up Chrome for Mac OS X priority.

Original comment by keng...@gmail.com on 2 Sep 2009 at 12:09

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Code injection on OS X isn't limited to input managers — you can do it with 
http://rentzsch.com/mach_inject/ or 
scripting additions. Both of these solutions require additional daemon that 
will trigger the injection, but they 
seem to be working on Snow Leopard.
Here's more information, with a possible solution that doesn't require 
additional daemons: 
http://code.google.com/p/safariblock/issues/detail?id=115#c16

Original comment by zee.technocore.ru.old@gmail.com on 2 Sep 2009 at 7:06

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32bit apps like Mailplane, Fluid, or 32bit Safari work fine with Google Gears 
under Snow Leopard. I removed the 
OSX version check and was able to use "Offline Gmail" without problems. 
However, I'm not sure if the "Snow 
Leopard" networking code is still 100% compatible with the current Google Gears 
implementation.

Original comment by ruben.ba...@gmail.com on 2 Sep 2009 at 7:23

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Please raise the priority level of this problem. If you didn't have gears 
installed before, or uninstalled it, there is 
no way to get gears running. The installer tells you "Google Gears is not 
compatible with Mac OS X versions later 
than Leopard (10.5)" and cancels the installation. This is a show stopper. You 
cannot instal gears in firefox or 
safari. 

Original comment by chadforp...@gmail.com on 3 Sep 2009 at 2:52

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As others have said, this is a completely show stopper if you are on Snow 
Leopard and
didn't already have gears installed.  Doesn't matter what browser you are 
running,
Gears refuses to install.

No gmail offline mode for me, even running chrome.

Big sad face!

Original comment by nicpott...@gmail.com on 4 Sep 2009 at 5:05

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Just as a point of clarity.  You can still use Gears with Firefox.  Just not 
Safari.  Can someone tell me how to get 
Chrome for OS X at all?

Original comment by dcp...@gmail.com on 4 Sep 2009 at 6:01

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You can get OS X Chrome from the Developer channel at 
http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?
extra=devchannel. I'm using it with GlimmerBlocker on Snow Leopard, and it 
works nicely. Now it's just the Gears 
we're sorely missing.

Original comment by jolit...@gmail.com on 4 Sep 2009 at 6:44

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It would be great if the google team can upgrade this to high priority. As per 
the message above, gear can NOT 
be installed on Leopard. Hence, it's not possible to use gears with any 
browser. 

Original comment by aabdulma...@gmail.com on 5 Sep 2009 at 10:45

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The mailplane guys have a modified version of Gears that works well for me. 
Using their hack, I'm again able to 
use offline GFYD mail in Safari 4.0.3 on Snow Leopard 10.6.1. Thanks guys!

http://mailplaneapp.com/download/google_gears/

Original comment by christop...@gmail.com on 11 Sep 2009 at 2:57

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Unfortunately what they are doing is forcing Safari to run as a 32 bit 
application instead 
of 64 bit.  That is not something we could really force on all Gears users.  In 
fact it is 
probably not something that MailPlane users will be very happy with long term.

To be clear the only changes they made to Gears was to remove the version 
checking.

Original comment by j...@chromium.org on 11 Sep 2009 at 4:25

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Of course it's not for the long term. They say: "It's a workaround until an 
official solution is made available." I 
offered the link for those who want an immediate solution. 

Original comment by christop...@gmail.com on 11 Sep 2009 at 5:00

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People who installed Google Gears before upgrading to Snow Leopard and use 
Firefox
seem to not have problems *but* if one wants to install Gears from scratch in 
Firefox
on Snow Leopard, the installer says that Gears cannot be installed on MacOS 
10.6.

Would it not be possible to allow the installer to proceed anyway so that 
people who
use Firefox can install Gears?

Original comment by thomas.r...@gmail.com on 17 Sep 2009 at 9:09

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I clean installed Firefox and put gears on from there in 10.6 without a hitch. 
Runs
perfect now =). The only thing i can think is maybe firefox grabbed the a 
previously
install gears from safari (retarded I know but after going nuts trying to find 
why I
could not install gears to FF on my work comp that was what turned out to be 
the prob
[this was in 10.5 though. Just thought it might be a good approach]). Just go to
tools->addons->plugins and see if there is a gears one hiding out.

Original comment by aptivape...@gmail.com on 17 Sep 2009 at 9:14

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In my case this is not possible, as I installed snow leopard on a formatted 
disk. It
will also be a problem for people who want to start using Gears but haven't used
Gears before.

Original comment by thomas.r...@gmail.com on 17 Sep 2009 at 9:18

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This terrible. My whole life is in Gmail offline. All my time on airplanes is 
where I catch up on mail. Now I can't 
do that!!! I have tried all posible workarounds and can't get it working with 
Safari or Firefox. Can't even install 
gears from Safari. The install page goes blank....

Original comment by wackerha...@gmail.com on 18 Sep 2009 at 7:39

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Found this site whilst trying to work out how to run offline gmail in mailplane
within snow leopard.

The solution is to download the BETA version of mailplane
(http://mailplaneapp.com/download/beta/) 

And the Snow Leopard Google Gears from
here:(http://mailplaneapp.com/download/google_gears/)

Then everything works just great. :)

Original comment by jem...@gmail.com on 22 Sep 2009 at 5:44

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This has been listed as a problem for most of the year, and a fix is still not
forthcoming.  According to the above post, this is a problem with Safari and not
Gears itself per se.  As Mac customers, I think if we want this issue to be 
fixed
properly, we have to contact Apple directly (i.e. post on Apple's message 
boards).  

I think if enough people ask Apple, or raise it as a concern, they won't be 
able to
ignore their users' concerns forever.  

Who's with me? :-)

I've started a post here:

http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=263

Original comment by peterkau...@gmail.com on 8 Oct 2009 at 8:47

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No, this is a Google problem. You're not going to get anything out of Apple. 
There are two issues: their plugin is 
not compatible with 64-bit safari yet (an issue shared with some other plugins 
out there), and their installer 
performs a version check disallowing installs on 10.6 regardless.

This was an OS change well signalled and available for testing over an 
unusually long beta period. It was as you 
say even reported by someone in that beta six months before release. (I guess 
Google engineers did not 
participate, and likely still aren't dogfooding their stuff on SL.) 

That they still haven't released an official installer that works under 10.6, 
so you can at least run Safari in 32-bit 
mode (never mind install for Chrome) shows you this is not a current priority. 
(Apparently commenting on how 
little work this was for a third party is, though!) 

To me at this point it is unwise to rely on gmail for offline mail, or on any 
of Google's Mac-related tools. (I got 
caught out by all of this while travelling for business, not fun.) It's clearly 
not a focus, and perhaps fair enough, 
though with their engineer count I would have naively expected better.

By the way, some of the confusion on this thread is because if you stick 
completely to Firefox under a from-
scratch install of 10.6,  you *can* install gears (for FF only), because it 
goes through the internal firefox add-on 
path. You can't install it using the downloadable installer however. Unless you 
use the mailplane rebuilt-without-
version-check one above.

Original comment by awillm...@gmail.com on 8 Oct 2009 at 11:09

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What's amazing to me is that other plugin developers have managed to figure out 
how to get their stuff going 
with the new architecture.  SIMBL and SafariCookies are two that I use that at 
least have betas in the works.  And 
while this isn't something I'm paying for, it does give me some insight as to 
how Google prioritizes their 
development efforts and some cause for thought as to whether I want to move 
business-related functions, some 
of which I would or do pay for with other vendors.

As a Firefox user, this particular issue isn't killing me, but I have to wonder 
if this is representative of Google's 
approach to the Apple and OSX world.  

Original comment by allen.ea...@gmail.com on 19 Oct 2009 at 8:50

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The fact that this is a medium priority defect is insulting.

Original comment by Immutate on 27 Oct 2009 at 1:15

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What's even more interesting is that Google Chrome is now available on the Mac, 
albeit 
as a "pre-beta" Developer preview, but Google Gears doesn't even work in Google 
Chrome since the installer still refuses to go on Snow Leopard.

Original comment by j...@me.com on 27 Oct 2009 at 1:55

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I would like to know what Google is doing to solve this issue. Gears is a 
important 
plugin to a lot of people, especially because of Google Services like the 
Offline 
versions of Gmail, Docs and Reader.

Users of Safari on Snow Leopard also cannot use the “My Location” feature 
on Google 
Maps, the “drag-and-drop” of content from the desktop inside a Wave in 
Google 
Wave, and so on. Why Google is not letting us know when we’ll be able to get 
a 
version of Gears that work on Safari 4 for Snow Leopard?

If Gears can be converted into the 64-bit environment, at least try to provide 
alternatives to it. Safari has the HTML 5 specs for App Cache and Database: is 
not 
possible to adapt the Offline web apps to use this technology natively?

Original comment by silvio.sousacabral on 1 Nov 2009 at 11:27

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"If Gears can be converted into the 64-bit environment..."

This is simply not the case, as Mailplane is already building a 64-bit version 
of Gears. The lack of progress, or 
even response, from Google on this issue is very, very strange.

Original comment by woody.gilk on 2 Nov 2009 at 3:58

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"Mailplane is already building a 64-bit version of Gears."

Really?  Their site says you need to do things like "restart Mailplane 2.1-beta 
or any other 32bit Browser like 
Fluid," and select Safari's "Open in 32-bit mode."

Original comment by lem...@gmail.com on 2 Nov 2009 at 4:07

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My apologies, Mailplane is not providing a 64-bit version of Gears, but there 
are several user-built 64-bit 
versions of Gears floating around the web.

Original comment by woody.gilk on 2 Nov 2009 at 4:10

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Is there any word of a official 64bit version of Gears coming down the pipe to 
establish compatibility with Snow Leopard? I am astonished this is not a higher 
priority issue and/or that no progress has been made!
I was pulling the trigger on a large Google Apps deployment when we ran into 
this 
issue! Firefox usage is a workaround but not a fix!

Original comment by HMHackMa...@gmail.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 12:21

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Does Google even read (care about) this thread?!

I'm yet another Google Apps user suffering from this problem. 

Original comment by sales%op...@gtempaccount.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 9:38

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I am wondering what the great deal is here. Google simply appears to not be 
interested. I wonder why... Well. 
Enemy number one being Microsoft, of course development first goes into that 
platform. 

Some people said there are some user-built 64-bit versions of Gears around on 
the web. Any experience with 
that? As far as Mailplane / Fluid versions concern, as I understood, these are 
not 64-bit because Mailplane / 
Fluid both are not 64-bit applicatoins but rather modified 32-bit versions. 

Original comment by panatlan...@me.com on 10 Nov 2009 at 9:39

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Why has nobody suggested using SIMBL? I notice it was mentioned in passing as 
one project that survived the 
death of InputManagers, but instead of duplicating their solution (and having 
yet another daemon running in the 
background to do the same thing), I suggest reworking Gears for Safari as a 
SIMBL plugin. It may be the case 
that nothing even needs to be changed, provided it compiles and functions 
correctly as a 64-bit binary.

In fact, tomorrow I am going to have a go at it. Checking out the source as we 
speak.

Original comment by eris.dis...@gmail.com on 11 Nov 2009 at 8:32

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It is annoying that 1password solved this problem over two months ago[1] and 
google's team has not done 
anything to fix it. SIMBL's implementation uses this approach. I would love to 
help in the effort to get this 
working but I have neither the experience or the time. Google Gears has become 
rather important with the 
introduction of Wave, and with an official version of Chrome lacking, it would 
be nice if 64-bit Safari 4 were 
supported.

[1]: http://kevin.sb.org/2009/09/02/1password-extension-loading-in-snow-leopard/

Original comment by relen.dr...@gmail.com on 14 Nov 2009 at 9:56

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Why is this still Medium? This makes drag and drop for google wave unusable in 
OSX.

Original comment by wfos...@gmail.com on 16 Nov 2009 at 6:57

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"Why is this still Medium? This makes drag and drop for Google wave unusable in 
OS X."

And not just that: You cannot drag waves from the main panel to folders on the
sidebar as well. Instead of drag the Wave, Safari selects the text on the item 
who
represents it. This is very weird compared to the behavior of other browsers.

But we're not here to talk Wave only, we're here to talk about Gears. And I 
can't
believe that nobody on Google can respond this thread with some explanation 
about the
progress of the 64-bit compatible version for the Safari 4 on Mac.

Original comment by silvio.sousacabral on 16 Nov 2009 at 7:09

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Stupid Google just wants to force us to Chrome when it comes out next month....

Original comment by aptivape...@gmail.com on 16 Nov 2009 at 7:25

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One more complaint....
Either you guys port this to Snow Leopard or People will start relying on HTML5 
DB's 
on WebKit and Gecko based browsers to develop web-apps as Gears is clearly not 
working at all on Snow Leopard ( Mail Plane thing is a dumb-fix and shall not 
even be 
considered ). **MILLIONS** of Mac Users around the world are being directly 
affected 
by this lack of consideration and people are suffering without any GMail 
Offline, Docs 
Offline, Advanced Wave features and a bunch of other features on services that 
Google and other people who used Gears for developing their web-apps are 
offering.
Please reconsider the Priority of this bug based on the FACT that more than 80% 
people already did the migration to Snow Leopard, and we're talking here of the 
whole Mac Users population which is a ever-growing platform.

Original comment by opti...@gmail.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 2:53

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Well, I never did get Gears to build. Didn't feel like tracking down a thousand 
(literally a thousand) compiler 
errors and a bunch of missing source files to maybe get it running. After 
looking at what the InputManager is 
doing, though, I am convinced that it would work perfectly fine as a SIMBL 
plugin if only I could get it to build.

Anyway, I'm unwatching this issue. My inbox is getting flooded with a lot of 
self-important whining. I thought 
Linden Labs had it bad. People, verbally abusing Google's employees isn't going 
to get you shit.

Original comment by eris.dis...@gmail.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 3:45

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@45: We are not supporting gears on Snow Leopard and later versions of Mac OS 
X. 
Relying on HTML5 database and appcache going forward is a good approach as a 
replacement for Gears on these platforms.

Original comment by ife...@google.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 4:54

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@47: Are there any comments from Google Docs Team and Wave Team about 
supporting HTML5 + appcache 
instead of using Gears ? at least for the Mac environment ?

Original comment by opti...@gmail.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 5:06

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@47:  Are you speaking for Google? (as indicated by your @google.com email 
address?) 

If so, do you mean that gears is not supported on *Snow Leopard*, or just not
supported for *64-bit Safari 4* on Snow Leopard?  In other words, can I expect
support for using gears (for offline Gmail) with Firefox (or Mozilla Prism) on 
Snow
Leopard?  

Do you mean to say that *Google* is relying on HTML5 database and appcache going
forward (as a replacement for gears in offline Gmail, Wave, G-Docs etc)?  Or 
are you
saying that *other* developers should use these instead of gears?  

Thanks in advance for clarification, it has been frustrating waiting for a 
response
from Google on this.

Original comment by paulwmor...@gmail.com on 18 Nov 2009 at 6:19

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Something that hasn't come up yet that I think is a big deal…Gears doesn't 
work for 
CHROME either on 10.6! I do not know if this is because of Chrome's pre-release 
status, 
but I'm running the latest dev build and it still does not work!

I couldn't care less about Safari not working, it's buggy anyways. CHROME, 
however, 
needs to be compatible with Gears in 10.6.

Original comment by amalki...@gmail.com on 23 Nov 2009 at 8:51